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[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power." - Benito Mussolini

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[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

If everything is capitalism, then nothing is capitalism

[–] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

According to your logic: If everything is the universe then nothing is the universe

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And according to yours, capitalism is the universe?

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Well universe = earth = humans = currency = capitalism

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

Capitalism is not currency, currency existed long before Capitalism.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Everything isn’t capitalism, but fascism is always funded by the capitalist class. In fact it can’t get far without it. Fascism doesn’t just randomly sprout out of the ground; it’s not as organic & grassroots as most people think. Fascism is always a false revolution, because the capitalist class always remains in power. It’s what the capitalist class falls back on when liberal democracy starts to fail them. It’s when the capitalist class goes mask off. That’s what Lenin meant by “fascism is capitalism in decay.” Michael Parenti: Rational Fascism

How did January 6 happen? With a whole bunch of funding from rich motherfuckers.

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The Nation: Trumpism: It’s Coming From the Suburbs

But scapegoating poor whites keeps the conversation away from fascism’s real base: the petite bourgeoisie. This is a piece of jargon used mostly by Marxists to denote small-property owners, whose nearest equivalents these days may be the “upper middle class” or “small-business owners.” […] Trump’s real base, the actual backbone of fascism, isn’t poor and working-class voters, but middle-class and affluent whites. Often self-employed, possessed of a retirement account and a home as a nest egg, this is the stratum taken in by Horatio Alger stories. They can envision playing the market well enough to become the next Trump. They haven’t won “big-league,” but they’ve won enough to be invested in the hierarchy they aspire to climb. If only America were made great again, they could become the haute 
bourgeoisie—the storied “1 percent.”


[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bro really went out of his way here💀

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're not even saying everything is capitalism though.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In what I've observed from a certain demographic on here, there seems to be a theme

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So you're jumping to conclusions.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

More like an educated guess

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No, just finding one

[–] Amstro@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In simpler terms, it's greed.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 0 points 3 weeks ago

That's too close to a "it's just human nature" asspull too often used to justify capitalistic skullduggery.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Fascism is Capitalism's immune system, activated when the wealth gap gets too large.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Activated when the people get's too aware of the exploitation and begins fighting back

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe we shouldn't be using an economic system whose immune system has historically lead to genocide, especially in an age where nukes are now a thing.

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[–] theturtlemoves@hexbear.net 0 points 3 weeks ago

The CSA precedes the Nazis. In fact, Nazi race laws were partially based on slavery laws from the southern US.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

First two are in the wrong order. Not just chronologically, but with regards to causation too: the Nazis were heavily influenced by American racists.

An argument could be made for the American traitor flag to be on both sides of the swastika, but that would be pretty messy..

A Stars & Stripes with 48 stars would probably be too subtle..

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hitler spoke about the American south and Jim Crow with reverence, he thought it should be a model for German racist policies.

This was something he wrote about in Mein Kampf.

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

i mean not just the south, the west and midwest too where do u think he got all those ideas about contiguous "living space" and about exterminating the people who already live in the land u want to steel and about consecration camps and reservations that continuously move towards a frontier until the displaced people have nowhere to go, amerikkka from its very inception was the template for nazi germany.

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Greater than just the South, the eugenics movement in the US in the early 20th century, with forced sterilizations and criminalizing interracial marriage, happened nationally.

Though you don't need to be capitalist to be racist as fuck. Racism exists all over the world in many different government and economic systems throughout all of human history

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Ehh i wouldnt agree, heavy capitalists are usually pretty liberal because they dont like regulation. There is some precident of big factory and company owners actually fighting against faschism(not for the good reasons tho). I do agree with lesser right wing ideologies just being "recruitment" for far-righters. Wewe seen them radicalise so many times in the past that it should be obvious by now that any amount of right leads to more far-right.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

Capitalism doesn't care what people feel about it, it moves according to its structure. Just because libertarians don't like Capitalism doesn't mean they can stop monopoly Capitalism from lobbying for regulations.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

All liberal capitalists want a full on chain of commands and dictator level control over their ~~domain~~ employees. The only difference is that they want “market forces” to force people to work for them instead of violence.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah thats true. Maybe this is like reading into the nuance of how a work camp is better than a death camp because you at least produce something before dying a horrible death. But i still stand by my opinion that the meme isnt completely true.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, et al: am I a joke to you?

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

no but u are

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

when you definitely understand what fascism is

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're on .ml so yea tankies being tankies...

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Illiterate too, Hitler wrote of Jim Crow as a model for Germany in Mein Kampf.

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[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How do you block all .ml posts?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Settings | Block instance 👋

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago
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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

Which part?

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[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

An anarchist would take off the capitalist mask to reveal hierarchy

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

Capitalism is a hierarchy so true as well

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[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

So what would you tell people that say that Nazis stands for national socialism - there is a socialism even in the name of the party.

So where does capitalism comes from?

[–] carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

The naming of something decides the nature of the thing

Lol

So where does capitalism comes from?

Volkswagen, Siemens, IBM, Hugo Boss, and many others. Also socialists known to like privatization, not like the Nazis invented that, rightt?

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The Nazis built the first concentration camp at Dachau for priests and political prisoners. The political prisoners were mostly from the Socialist Party of Germany (SPD), communists and liberals. The fucking MAGATs are trying to twist history again.

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