Less plastic being manufactured? Sounds good to me. :)
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Seriously. Let’s light a fire under this trend. I will spend twice as much on a thing if it’s metal instead of plastic.
While we're at it, let's get back to all metal phones! Screw this glass back shit.
For the "Wireless" charging people:
It's a gimmick, nothing of value is lost
Wireless charging rocks, dude
True wireless charging would definitely, the kind where your phone being in the mere vicinity of the "base station" allows it to start charging. From an actual distance larger than a handful of centimeters. That would be a feature worthy of the sacrifice of a metal body and being stuck with glass
The "Wireless" charging marketing gimmick is just as bad as the "Hoverboard" gimmick vs a real Hoverboard a la Back to the Future.
Its basically just a plug shifted from a socket to the back of the phone, but worse. It's almost always slower and saves a second or 2 at most from having to plug/unplug it. Some minor pros, but not worth having to be saddled with annoying and fragile glass backs. You still need to take it out of your pocket, place it in a designated spot, and can't use it all that well while in the designated spot and still have it charge.
It's a gimmick so companies could say their phones totally have wireless charging so they didn't have to spend the R&D money to develop actual wireless charging and you bought into it hook, line and sinker.
There were some promising developments on real wireless charging, but ever since the fake gimmick caught hold it's been awfully quiet. Another victim of marketing I suppose.
What a weird think to insult someone over. It does what it says it does and I don't get why you're drawing the line on what "true" wireless charging is when I'm not plugging a wire into my phone. You think I "fell for a marketing gimmick" despite using the feature almost exclusively for the past 12 years? How is it a gimmick if I get value out of it?
I like having a clean desk and not accidentally yoinking my phone off. I like not adding wear and tear to the USB port because it sucks when they break. I like that I've had a dozen or USB cords die but never once had to toss a wireless charger.
You aren't the arbiter of what's useful. You not finding value in wireless charging doesn't mean it's a useless gimmick. Get off damn your high horse
Lol never said it was useless, only the value doesn't outweigh the sacrifices. Gimmicks can have some usefulness and utility and still be gimmicks.
The gimmicky part is that smartphone companies got you hooked into a product that barely fills just enough peoples value thresholds that they could avoid developing real wireless charging.
In a world where this fake shit didn't take hold we could have had real wireless charging by now, if you think the "wireless" charging is good now, just think what true wireless would be like. You could walk into a room and your phone just starts charging with 0 effort. None.
But all the major companies stopped their R&D on it because consumers like you lapped the gimmick up and continue to. All that's left are a handful of startups working on it, so it's going to be years still.
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I use a magsafe charger in both the vehicles I drive on a regular basis, and a charging mat at home, both are extremely useful.
You're talking absolute nonsense.
“All right team this is the single most dropped item in the history of mankind we need to make this thing tough what are we gonna manufacture the backing out of?”
“Glass?”
“…….Brilliant!! You’ve got upper management written all over you, Jacobs!”
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Likely far more energy and pollution needed to manufacture this though so overall a loss for the earth.
But most steel is recycled and most plastic is not.
You still need a lot of energy to recycle steel. Less than mining by far but still a lot.
But compared to plastic from virgin fossil fuels?
We as a society are going to need memory cards.
What do you think they should be made out of?
Need to be examined on e case by case basis but plastic often comes out aheadi
If you penny pinch and don’t want to pay the environmental cost, sure plastic might come out cheaper.
But when you take into account the triple bottom line, plastic comes out behind.
Plastic in a landfill is a lot less harmful than co2 in the atmosphere.
Which is why you use renewable green energy.
Sure but do you have any proof they are doing that? some places are really good and others really bad. Overall my guess is iron is still worse than plastic but there are exceptions.
chitin
In a sustainable world, energy can and should be cheaper than raw materials. We are only harvesting a tiny fraction of the solar energy hitting the earth, to say nothing of wind and geothermal power. Rolling out more renewables and energy storage and using some of the surplus power to switch from extracting new resources to recycling our waste would greatly lower our footprint.
You can swap out centralized energy sources (relatively speaking) overnight as greener sources become cheaper/more available compared to retooling whole industries away from plastic
It's the same thing with electric cars, yea it might plug in now to a dirty energy source, but that energy source could be a green energy source tomorrow without you ever knowing and importantly not having to buy a new car or change any other infrastructure to take advantage of it
A power line is a power line, it doesn't care if the electricity going through it was derived from a dirty power plant or solar or nuclear
Energy needs can be met and shouldn't be an argument for using plastic.
The pollution could be more dependending on how you look at that statement, but making something without plastic results in less plastic pollution and you can't claim that to be an overall loss for the earth.
I respect the sentiment, but is the amount of plastic in an SD card really that significant? There's probably more in just the packaging alone.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
This is more like taking the first step, getting distracted by a cool bug, finding an interesting stick, and going home to show Mum your cool stick.
An SD card lasts for years, and the amount of plastic in one is negligible. It's just not an issue.
Any reduction in plastic is a good thing.
Very nuanced view of the world you have.
An SD card lasts for years, and the amount of plastic in one is negligible. It’s just not an issue.
Hark! The ghosts of countless generations of short-sighted polluters cry out in complacent, rationalizing unison!
It's not about expecting one model of memory card to save the Earth. It's about moving away from needless production of toxic materials, everywhere.
And if you don't care, nobody's going to force you to read The Lorax, but please don't go around shitting on people's appreciation for even the small things.
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Unironically a good idea. I can see these really helping to increase the chances of memory survival in camera applications where the camera has a high chance of being physically destroyed. Also a metal body reallllly helps conduct heat out of the flash, which will increase their lifespan in continuous-write applications.
Stainless is extra bad at conducting heat considering it's a metal, but it's still way better than plastic. I hope they make an aluminum version at some point.
Yes, stainless is "bad", compared to other metals. But like you also mentioned, it's loads better than plastic.
I'd doubt they make an aluminum one, it's probably not worth the tooling.
When dealing with only 100-200mW, even a small change in thermal conductivity will make a big difference.
One day the card will be conductive enough for us to complain it's hot when we take it out
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I feel like dealing with SD cards' inevitable demise is more important than armoring them. What good is a stainless SD card that no longer functions after 2 years of use?
What good is a stainless SD card
Better thermal conductivity and in turn dissipation than plastic does tend to longer lasting flash chips, how much this change means in real world practice though remains to be seen
Heat is a flash storage killer of all kinds
It's hard to believe that it would have taken 25 years for the many SD card builders out there to figure out that a heat spreader could solve the degradation problems.
Why would they want to solve an issue that causes you to need a new product from them
Cool
Why tho
Cause it's metal.
\m/
Personally, id choose them over plastic ones if not just to save plastic
doesn't metal manufacturing use quite a lot more energy?
But it has the benefit of not breaking down into micro plastics and getting into every part of everyone.
"Honey, I accidently digested our SD card again"
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Maybe extreme weather conditions for trail cams? That's the only reason I would think about using one but never actually buy one for lol.
ROG Ally
People will pay more money for premium.
But yeah environmentally this is a damn good idea. We should make everything out of metal.
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Isn't there a danger of someone shorting data to voltage by inserting this thing wrongly?
Also a good way to wear down your SD port if you remove this with any regularity.
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