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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Then it sounds like your business is a failure and should be shutdown.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (27 children)

WHO is the one guy who downvotes you???

"NO! UNPROFITABLE BUSINESSES DESERVE TO THRIVE!!! MUST FEED THE BILLIONAIRES!!!"

Maybe OpenAI learned to downvote...

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

WHO is the one guy who downvotes you???

That's the bot that ChatGPT operates here on Lemmy.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (20 children)

Lol how about every pirate who fundamentally opposes the copyright system?

How about everyone who uses Google and doesn't want to see it shut down for scraping copyrighted content to provide a search engine?

[–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 1 month ago

Search engines provide source, they scrap for indexing, but your search gives a list of websites that matches that you will then likely visit. That's a big fundamental difference.

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

The guy who wants their AI girlfriend yesterday.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If not, The Pirate Bay would like a word.

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[–] afiresword@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For years Microsoft and Google were happy to acquiesce to copyright claims from the music and movie industry. Now all of a sudden when it benefits them to break those same laws, they immediately did. Now those industries who served small creators copyright claims and up against someone with a bigger legal budget.

It's more evident then ever how broken our copyright system is. I'm hoping this blows up in both parties faces and we finally get some reform but I'm not holding my breath.

This is an assumption but I bet all the data feed into Content ID on YouTube was used to train Bard/Gemini....

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Oh how quick people are to jump on the side of copyright and IP.

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[–] genuineparts@infosec.pub 0 points 4 weeks ago

Oh no. Anyway...

well fuck you Sam Altman

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe they should have considered that, before stealing data in the counts of billions

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Google did it and everyone just accepted it. Oh maybe my website will get a few pennies in ad revenue if someone clicks the link that Google got by copying all my content. Meanwhile Google makes billions by taking those pennies in ad revenue from every single webpage on the entire Internet.

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[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Aww poor shit company and their poor money problems.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Y'all have the wrong take. Fuck copyright.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 0 points 1 month ago

Until the society we live under no longer reflects capitalist values, copyright is a good and necessary force. The day that that changes is when people may give credence to your view.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Then go out of business.

Literally, "fuck you go die" situation.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago

We can't make money paying for "AI", going to theaters, or paying for streaming services.

So I guess everybody gets a piracy!

[–] thurstylark@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, poor baby can't make money with an illegal business model. How awful.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (7 children)

So search engines shouldn't exist?

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[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 0 points 1 month ago

It's impossible for me to make money without robbing a bank, please let me do that parliament it would be so funny

[–] teft@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Sounds like an argument slave owners would use. "My plantation can't make money without free labor!"

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 month ago

My plantation can't make money without everybody's labour.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is the main issue with AI. It is the issue with AI that should have been handled and ultimately regulated before any AI tool got to its current state. This is also a reason why we really cannot remove the A from STEAM.

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[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago
[–] ptz@dubvee.org 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah! I can't make money running my restaurant if I have to pay for the ingredients, so I should be allowed to steal them. How else can I make money??

Alternatively:

OpenAI is no different from pirate streaming sites in this regard (loosely: streaming sites are way more useful to humanity). If OpenAI gets a pass, so should every site that's been shut down for piracy.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (12 children)

K, so Google should be shut down too?

They can't operate without scraping copyrighted data.

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[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If OpenAI wants a pass, then just like how piracy services make content freely open and available, they should make their models open.

Give me the weights, publish your datasets, slap on a permissive license.

If you're not willing to contribute back to society with what you used from it, then you shouldn't exist within society until you do so.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (6 children)

No they shouldn’t. They should cease to exist

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Good luck putting the cat back in the bag.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

I have cats. Putting them back in a bag or box is easier

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[–] nick@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago

“Too fucking bad”

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

And my money redistribution company can not get money to redistribute without robbing banks. Please put up your hands. 🔫🥷

[–] TotalCasual@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, they can make money without stealing. They just choose to steal and lie about it either way. It's the worst kind of justification.

The investors are predominantly made up of the Rationalist Society. It doesn't matter whether or not AI "makes money". It matters that the development is steered as quickly as possible towards an end product of producing as much propaganda as possible.

The bottom line barely even matters in the bigger picture. If you're paying someone to make propaganda, and the best way to do that is to steal from the masses, then they'll do it regardless of whether or not the business model is "profitable" or not.

The lines drawn for AI are drawn by people who want to use it for misinformation and control. The justifications make it seem like the lines were drawn around a monetary system. No, that's wrong.

Who cares about profitability when people are paying you under the table to run a mass crime ring.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Copying information is not stealing.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 0 points 1 month ago

Honestly this meme is way understating the sinisterness

  • Election interference for money machine
  • Whole internet is ads company
  • Dopamine addiction for all your children
  • Superpowers for law enforcement
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