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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

So Elsagate never stopped?

This has to be a state actor thing, nobody else has the resources to deploy such a long lasting and changing content farm. Some psyops to fuck future generations of adults up?

[–] blargerer@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 1 month ago

Never doubt the impact bad incentives can have on a large group of individual actors.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago
[–] blargbluuk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Meanwhile I can't even upload commercials for archival purposes without getting copyright strikes on my account. How is YouTube so bad at this.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Copyright protection is easy. Detection of novel forms of obscenity is hard.

I'd argue it's extremely hard, even.

You know, as much as I hate it.... "you know it when you see I but hard to definet" really is accurate.

There's plenty of things that aren't outright illegal that are completely inappropriate around children.

And if there are things that are context specific, it gets a lot harder to make a computer recognize a problem.

Audio cues are easy to scan for and computers are pretty good at recognizing sounds, especially in regards to copyright detection (even if their interpretation of "fair use" clause is still fucked 6 ways)

Video is a lot harder unless the computer is trying to match direct images (it's a lot easier to recognize a still frame from The Avengers when it's uploaded full size than it is to recognize a slightly warped, smaller cropped version with someone in front of it commenting on the video)

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

More importantly it's expensive.

also, they don't want care.

[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 month ago

Because that’s the way the legal system works.

“Oops, had some harmful/illegal content on there? Nobody was /really/ hurt, or at least, we weren’t directly causing harm. I’ll take it down and eat a small fine.

Vs

“Oh I’m sorry, I’ll take down the 30s clip of your 90s movie. it has caused you 3million in damages? I’m so sorry, here’s some tools that will automate detection and removal of your property. I’m so sorry”

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

According to the article, the videos feature nudity and possibly sexual harassment. Sexual harassment is unfortunately a fact of life, and it's probably better that children recognise it, and see it condemned in the media they watch, than not know what it is at all. And you would have to be a puritan to think that children seeing naked people is somehow so terrible.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you bothered reading the very short article, it would be very clear that people are deliberately getting children subscribers than replacing the flow of new content with attempts to brainwash them or expose them to obscenity.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

It’s not even that, it’s to shock them so they keep engaging with the channel, telling their friends, etc. which increases ad impressions until they are caught.

Then they create a new channel and start again.

This is Elsagate 2 but with more nefarious tactics.

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

But their channels for children... not just random channels. There is a difference.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Imagine arguing that it's actually good for kids to watch women being harassed. Peak incel.

edit: Dude is literally a "race realist". lol smh.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe they realize race is not a biological term but rather a racist term. It's a way to distinguish us from them because we are darker or are shorter or taller than the standard sized/colored/shaped group.

Race does not equal species. We are all one single species, the homosapiens.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We need a term to distinguish people with different skin tones as they are treated differently. You can call it race or skin color, it doesn't really matter, it's just a semantic argument.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Like he was probably skin tone 25. We can divide brown into the standard 8-bit 256 shades and just use that. Or RGB? Look, the point is that Asians are not all from Asia which is a continent, and certainly they are not yellow. The Simpsons are yellow. Mexicans, Hispanic, etc are not brown people from Mexico. We're trying to assign a location of birth to be a life long declaration of allegiance or a skin color that is not actual or precise. I'm first gen American, my kids are American but my wife and I were born on opposite sides of the planet. The indigenous Americans themselves came from elsewhere as written in their prehispanic history. The Spanish are not white colors either and so the mixed people who came later are not actually from America either, and neither the Anglosaxons AKA whites, AKA blonde etc. You can't use those ways to describe people because it's not biological. I personally know all sorts of mixed migrants and natural born US citizens and there's no way one could use these terms to describe people in a way that people want to be described as or even in a way that is remotely accurate. And ofcourse is there's only 5 different types of people, then there's no American melting pot. Ofcourse my views here are from the point of view of a migrant so I know perfectly well that American is unique. If you ever travel anywhere else, you'll immediately notice that everyone there has similar features and skin tones with very little variation. So either they are way behind us, or they melt variation so quick that we never see it. But my money is on the US being the most advanced melting pot. That's pretty clear in Mexico, Korea, Netherlands, Philippines, Japan, China, and several other places I've visited. Mexico and Philippines for example are great examples of almost complete melting into mixed people from different places. Not that it's a good thing there, indigenous people almost disappeared due to war and disease.

It's complicated.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

In other news: healthy grass is green and the sky in a clear, sunny day, is blue.

[–] Dvixen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago
[–] Steve@startrek.website 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Chozo@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

me, thinking of elsagate

First time?

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

meanwhile actual content creators are getting demonitized for happy wheel level gore (small red particles that come out when a stick man's limbs come off)

so dumb.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago

And "Heavy Is Dead" gets age-restricted because Spy comically hangs himself :/

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

And if they say a bad word too early. Good thing no one knows what they mean when they call it suislide

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The whole: youtube has to be children friendly is the dumbest thing ever. If you let your children unsupervised browse YouTube you ar ea bad parent, if you let YouTube raise your children you are also a bad parent. Just because youtubers say frick, it's not child friendly it's annoying

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hard agree. Buy your kids DVD sets or pirate if you know how and limit their screen time.

Dropping kids in front of youtube is shitty patenting.

[–] s3rvant@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Jellyfin +yt-dlp

Kids ask for a YouTube show, I get to evaluate and then they get safe watching

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago

Just like I got DVDs as a child, my kid would get a hard drive with approved material.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wrong comment, sorry.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

It's okay. It only some, so a big majority is good and they catch some of the bad.

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Damn, when I was a kid we had to hunt around in the woods for our obscene material.

[–] simonced@lemmy.one 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Looking under benches in parks worked as well.

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago

Ok I definitely get why you don't want that content to be seen by children. I watched some of that shit.

But I also must say most of the scenes won't be understood by children. However the overall content is bad and makes people dumb.

I am sure that you have children whose parents say, that's a comic, nothing bad can happen there, watching that.

6 million views on that shit........