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[–] DarkMessiah@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

“Whatever happened with the ozone layer panic, if scientists are so smart?”

We listened to the scientists, and the problem went away.

[–] MediciPrime@midwest.social 2 points 8 months ago

Didn't go away, just stopped getting worse at an alarming rate.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

It's the same as people using the example of the Y2K bug being a non event. Yeah, because globally trillions of dollars were spent fixing it before it became an event.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I literally had this exact exchange with someone last year, when they tried to cast doubt on global warming by comparing it to the ozone. Another person did the same , using acid rain, and I pointed out that the northeast sued the shit out of the Midwest until they cut that shit with the coal fire power plants.

[–] Yaztromo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

The Conservative Party led Canadian Government and the Regan-era Republican US Government started working on the US-Canada Air Quality Agreement, which was signed by the George H.W. Bush administration into law in the US (and the Brian Mulroney led Government of Canada).

That’s right — two Conservative governments identified a problem, listened to their scientists, and enacted a solution to acid rain. And now the problem has virtually disappeared.

Oh how low Conservatives have fallen on both sides of the border since those days.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Similar with Y2K


it was only a nothingburger because it was taken seriously, and funded well. But the narrative is sometimes, "yeah lol it was a dud."

[–] FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The question is, what will happen in 2038 when y2k happens again due to an integer overflow? People are already sounding the alarm but who knows if people will fix all of the systems before it hits.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

2038 is approaching super fast and nobody seems to care yet

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At the rate of one year per year, even.

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For each second that passes we're one second closer to 2038

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 8 months ago

Except for leap seconds. Time is the worst to work with :(

[–] Tranus@programming.dev -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Y2K specifically makes no sense though. Any reasonable way of storing a year would use a binary integer of some length (especially when you want to use as little memory as possible). The same goes for manipulations; they are faster, more memory efficient, and easier to implement in binary. With an 8-bit signed integer counting from 1900, the concerning overflows would occur in 2028, not 2000. A base 10 representation would require at least 8 bits to store a two digit number anyway. There is no advantage to a base 10 representation, and there never has been. For Y2K to have been anything more significant than a text formatting issue, a whole lot of programmers would have had to go out of their way to be really, really bad at their jobs. Also, usage of dates beyond 2000 would have increased gradually for decades leading up to it, so the idea it would be any sort of sudden catastrophe is absurd.

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Look some info on BCD or EBCDIC.

[–] Ugurcan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

TBH “The whole world agreed on something” narrative doesn’t really reflect what happened.

Actually, The Industry dropped using CFC after a cheaper and luckily safer alternative has been discovered right around that time.

[–] GermainRobitaille@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.

[–] fannymcslap@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Okay why the fuck has this been top of my front page for two days

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl -1 points 8 months ago

Lemmy auto sorts by "active" so my responding to you will now keep it at the top of your page for day 3 lol