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To be clear, this is just a joke, and I don't look down on direct downloading. It absolutely has its place, and sometimes I do it myself if it's just faster to download a file directly. Torrenting is just so much more convenient, though, especially when using Jackett's manual search.

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[–] RighteousFog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And Prowlarr is even better if you're also using Radarr/Sonarr/Lidar.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've considered switching to this program, but from what I've heard, its manual search isn't as good as Jackett's, and I only use Jackett for manual searching. Apparently Prowlarr is more suited for use with the .arr suite, which is why its manual search isn't as good, and it doesn't have as many available indexers. I heard all this a while ago, though. Is this all still the case?

[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're mostly functionally equivalent, but prowlarr supports usenet indexers in addition as well as having a better interface.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

Ah. Well, I don't use Usenet and Jackett's interface suits me fine. Guess I'll stick to Jackett then. Thanks for the info!

[–] Pulp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jackett shows if torrent is freeleech. Prowlarr doesnt. Shame because prowlarr is more reliable

[–] RighteousFog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Prowlarr properly shows if a torrent is freeleech for me. Maybe the feature was added after you tried it?

They aren't using any of those programs though. That's the point of the meme and they have explained this in the comments. Last I used those programs waste far more time than they ever saved, and OP agrees with me on this.

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Today I learned that some torrent clients provide a built-in torrent search engine.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

See, I was hoping this meme would inform at least one person that Qbittorrent comes with an in-built search engine. That's how I found out about it in the first place, through a meme lol

[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use to use qbtorrent search, but it stopped working a few years ago.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Huh, it works on my end. I tested it just the other day.

[–] razieltakato@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Today I learned that people actually use this. I always thought it didn't work right.

[–] thedrivingcrooner@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Limewire was like that. It was heavily abused and unsafe to find shit with but it was like living in the future.

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jackett is pretty good, but you should really check out the *arr suite of apps. And when you do, you'll find Prowlarr is quite a bit better than Jackett for finding just the stuff you want.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As I mentioned in a different comment here, I'm already familiar with the arr suite. It's how I found Jackett in the first place, and I've already determined that setting up the .arr programs isn't worth it for me. Stremio suits me just fine, the .arr programs appear to be better suited toward those with the time and money to setup a whole dedicated server for their media needs. I only consume media on my personal computer, so I have no need for that.

I have tried Prowlarr though, just yesterday in fact. I didn't really find its manual search feature to be any better than Jackett's, and in fact it had some issues. In any case, since I don't use the .arr programs, I've no reason to switch. Thanks for the suggestion though.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand your reasoning for not setting up the other *arr apps, due to not having a dedicated server to run them, however you'd still benefit from running them on your PC. They handle the downloading, extraction, categorising and naming of the media you want and they can do that automatically.

Even on your computer, that'll save you time and effort, you can just tell it what shows you want - even shows that aren't out yet and it'll grab them for you whenever they appear. It's great for when you enjoy a show and the next season starts, it just grabs it for you and the show appears one day.

A lot of people start this way and it's only then they think about getting a dedicated device for it - such a device can be a decent little Synology or QNAP NAS, something small, quiet and power efficient but I'd definitely say you don't need to start there. It's worth the effort to try though, believe me.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They handle the downloading, extraction, categorising and naming of the media you want and they can do that automatically.

I'm good with handling this manually, or rather, I don't even have to handle any of this since Stremio takes care of it, and I have neither the hard drive space nor the bandwidth to devote toward allowing a bunch of programs to just start downloading large files perpetually in the background, filling up my hard drive and taking up all my bandwidth lol. The .arr suite is best combined with a seedbox and a dedicated computer. All I have is a 1.5 TB hard drive and no gigabit internet speeds.

And honestly, I don't see what appreciable amount of "time and effort" this is going to save for me. With Stremio, it's as easy as going into the catalog (or using the search bar), clicking a movie, and picking one of the releases from the menu. If I wanna watch a show or movie that isn't out yet or whose upcoming season is yet to be released, I can just add it to my library and turn on notifications.

It doesn't get any easier than that, doesn't require a massive hassle with a set-up process involving several different programs and trial and error, and I don't have to devote hard drive space for every show or movie I want to watch, since Stremio keeps files on a temporary cache that gets deleted at regular intervals, so it doesn't end up filling my hard drive. This system is perfect for me, I have no reason to change it.

[–] chrizbie@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

I've learned a lot here on Lemmy

[–] CrowAirbrush@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just started sailing again and all the torrents i want for my fav bands are stuck at 0. So i've started getting songs one by one from that website that takes them from deezer i found on here.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Soulseek for music. And yt-dlp.

[–] virtueisdead@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

bandcamp-dl is a blessing. i used to use zotify too back when it actually worked and it was a godsend!

[–] rambos@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your meme is missing one more picture where everything explodes with full servarr setup

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't use .arr programs, so not really, lol. At least not in my case, anyway. Stremio fills the niche for all my media needs quite nicely, and Qbit and Jackett cover everything else.

Edit: Really, downvoting someone for using Stremio instead of the .arr suite? Lol. Stay classy, c/Piracy.

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

i direct download cause i dont have a vpn

[–] Arose8334@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You guys are not using radarr/sonarr?

[–] ancoraunamoka@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nope. Every time I try them, they fuck up my movies / series categorization. They have bad support for multilingual content (or maybe the releasers should use better naming). To be honest I never understood why radarr and sonarr is useful. How many movies are you watching that downloading becomes a time wasting effort? For TV series, why don't you download packs that contain the entire season?

For each movies I spend less than a minute for the torrent search, for tv series less than 5 minutes just because I am picky on quality. Given how many problems people have with the -arr stack, I think my time is better spent like this. Maybe stuff would be different with usenet

[–] Arose8334@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because not every movie and episode that I want to watch is already released. Radarr/sonarr lets me subscribe and downlod the correct movie/episode when available in the quality profile that I want.

Also automatically sorting everything in a useful structure when I share my plex libraries with friends and family.

[–] glitched_lesbian@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but i dont wanna pay for a vpn...

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jackett doesn't require a VPN to use? Unless you mean torrents in general, in which case yeah, you do kinda need a VPN for those if you live in a country that prosecutes torrenting. Fortunately, you can just direct download stuff in that case.

[–] playboipete@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

dont most countries not allow it though? something about there being pressure from the country/copy right holder that the product is associated with? so like even if uganda dont care if their citizens all rip the new taylor swift, if they dont enforce then usa or copyright holder is going to be mad and uganda dont want that.

i could be wrong im not sure but i think i read that somewhere. so like essentially its illegal everywhere depending on what content is torrented, which a lot is from usa. and probably south korea lol and i know they have strict copyright laws

[–] bblfrnz@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Well, no, actually vast majority of countries do not care at all. There are only a few countries like Germany for instance, where you have to use vpn for torrenting

[–] Xirup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is Jackett's manual search? Never heard of it.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Jackett is a program that allows you to configure multiple indexers (torrent sites, like 1337x, EZTV, RuTor, Nyaa.si, etc.) in a single interface, that way you can search through all of them at the same time. Jackett, and another program just like it called Prowlarr, is usually used in conjunction with the .arr suite of programs (Radarr, Sonarr, etc.), but it includes a manual search function that allows you to query all the indexers you have set up in the interface at the same time. That's exclusively what I use it for.

So, for example, I have 22 indexers set up in my installation of Jackett. I can use the manual search function to search through all of them at once, then I can sort the results by seeder count, publish date, and file size, and I can filter through the results to find exactly what I'm looking for. Once I've found the file I want, I can copy the magnet link directly from the search results and paste it into Qbittorrent. It's an extremely easy way to find files quickly, and it's much more efficient than manually going to a bunch of different torrent sites to search for a file that might not even be available there. With Jackett, I've literally never once had a case where I wasn't able to find what I was looking for. That's how good it is.

[–] lemming007@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Don't you need to find 22 indexers to make that happen? Are these all public trackers because I don't think there are even that many left. Or are you using private trackers? I tried using Jacket but it's no good without having indexers, I thought it comes preinstalled with indexers

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Jackett comes preloaded with 574 indexers, and none of the ones I use are private. All of mine are public indexers, you just have to know the names of some popular torrent sites. I discovered half the indexers I use from people on r/Piracy (before the migration) talking about how much they like how they work. That's how I found Idope, Knaben, and Torlock. Others, like 1337x, Nyaa.si, LimeTorrents, and EZTV are all indexers I was familiar with as I had used them personally and recognized them when I clicked into the "add indexers" drop-down on the interface. Barring all that, you could just ask someone else to send you a screenshot of all the indexers they use on their Jackett setup. Here's a list of the ones I use. Adding indexers to Jackett is basically the easiest part, and you only have to do it once.

[–] lemming007@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I must have tried a different application before(not Jackett) because this one is totally different and I do see the preinstalled indexers and they work great! Now, is there an Android client for Jackett? My ideal scenario would be to search all my Jackett indexers from a nice Android app and tap a magnet link. I already have a torrrent app (Transdroid) installed on my Android so it would take it from there.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm not sure if they have an android version of Jackett. It would be a dream come true if that were the case, but I'm sure it would be listed in the Jackett github page if a mobile version was available. Sadly, there's no mention of anything like that on the github page.

Really glad to hear you were able to get Jackett working, though! It really is an amazing program.

[–] Getallen@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago

Oh ma gaaahh REALLY???? Qbittorrent has a search engine??????

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah until jackett shits the bed and all of a sudden all indexers fail, and the "official fix" is to completely reinstall.

Edit: Don't downvote me, express your displeasure here and here. Tell 'em I sent ya.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Gotta say, in over 2 years of using this program, I've never had that happen even once.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

Been using it for about a month-ish and it did it to me today, looked up the issue and github said reinstall. Now I can't use it until I do, but thankfully I just got on usenet so I can be lazy for a week or so.

[–] lemming007@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you install search plugins in qBittorrent? When I follow their instructions, paste the plugin URL to add it, nothing happens. I'm using a headless qBittorrent web gui

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly I had the same experience with qbittorrent's plugins. Many are outdated and broken i think.

It's much easier to use sonarr and radarr, with prowlarr for managing torrent mirrors.

[–] lemming007@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'd rather not go down that rabbit hole, it's too much for what I need. I just want to be able to search for torrents easier and add them with one click, I don't need the whole automation stack.