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[–] storcholus@feddit.org 0 points 3 months ago

but it seems likely that the Logitech controller—along with the five people on the sub—is gone forever.

Love it

[–] ndupont@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I own 3 of those. They are not for PS or XBox but for mostly for PC gaming. They are not Bluetooth, they come with their dedicated USB nano receiver. I don't even trust them to win a championship in "F1 race stars", the arcade F1 game. The wireless is not reliable enough. They eat AA batteries like candy.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Absolutely agreed and I've had to replace the shoulder bumpers on mine twice now. ALSO the trigger traverse is RIDICULOUSLY LONG! Like I can fire an actual semi pistol faster and those have a five lb draw.

But man do they feel nice in the hand. No controller since the ps2 has felt like this to me.

[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This controller kept me in rocket league gold for months. I put it on eBay and some shmuck said they need it in a submarine but are on a budget so max can do is three fiddy. I just wanted to get rid of the thing

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[–] smokebuddy@lemmy.today 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The classic little brother defence flipped as prosecution. It was the controller all along.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Everyone's joking here but I've owned and used an F710 since 2009 and they are ABSOLUTE CRAP.

I'm not even joking but their range is like 3 feet in the BEST conditions and their USB controller is proprietary and doesn't even work with OTHER F710s.

Anyone who's used one for more than a few hours knows this.

Why do I still use mine? Well the hand feel is amazing and the weight is perfect, but everything else is terrible and shouldn't even be used for gaming.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just get the F310, like me, and you can enjoy that three foot range without batteries.

Also, WHY DID THE SUB USE THE WIRELESS VERSION WHEN THE WIRED IS CHEAPER AND WIRED?

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

At this point filing a multi-million dollar lawsuit against OceanGate will be like trying to extract blood from a stone.

What tangible assets do OceanGate really have left to pay Nargeolet's estate? Their CEO (the maverick aerospace engineer who thought he was 'revolutionizing' the submarine industry by cutting corners) is dead, their only active submersible imploded, their reputation has been tainted by the fact that they've been selling billionaires what is effectively a carbon fiber coffin waiting to implode, and any angel investors have probably pulled out harder than a porn star on the verge of climax.

Even then, they may not even have a case. IANAL but in an age where every single tech and gaming company has been pushing through class action waivers and forced arbitration clauses in their Terms of Service, I get the feeling that any attempts at suing OceanGate will be thrown out of court by the waivers each passenger had to sign.

There is a sense of irony in people celebrating this disaster on social media because it means "five less billionaires in the world." No, this is potentially a massive L for us commoners, because it shows just how much corporate greed can destroy lives. If the rich can be screwed this badly by an unregulated corporation, imagine what corporate giants can do to people who can't afford lawyers.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Movie pitch - to pay all its lawsuits, OceanGate launches one final desperate mission to the wreck of the San José.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"Rush, who saw himself as an innovator like "Steve Jobs or Elon Musk," the complaint says, once told Pogue, "At some point, safety just is pure waste." Rush thought he had found a lighter way to build subs."

This really summarizes the mindset of most second+ generation rich people. Because this guy lived with a lot of inherited money and power all his life, he assumed that everything that comes out of his brain must be the ultimate truth. So much so that without even a single reservation he happily took his son with him to that journey knowing full well that the submarine was probably violating several critical safety requirements that he deemed unnecessary. We are basically being ruled by such people folks.

[–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Super accurate comment.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've worked with plenty poor people who thought the exact same thing.

The only difference is that he actually had the resources to realize his stupid ideas

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[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Logitech has great lawyers. It's almost guaranteed that there a "this controller's intended use is only for ____" in their purchase agreement paperwork.

No way is this lawsuit going anywhere

[–] lewdian69@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They are not suing Logitech. They're suing OceanGate and using the controller as an example of poor design and decision making.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

IMO that argument weakens their case. The controller was one of the least problematic things they did. Mechanical controls would have compromised the hull even more, so it was always going to be controlled electronically. I hope the complaint at least offers examples of better options and how those would have had any effect at all on hull integrity.

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