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Just got this card as an upgrade to my 5700xt. It is so good, and REALLY pretty.

Intel has not halted sales or clawed back any inventory. It will not do a recall, period. The company is not currently commenting on whether or how it might extend its warranty.

Researchers discover potentially catastrophic exploit present in AMD chips for decades

Honestly even with gpus now too. I was forced to team green for a few years because they were so far behind. Now though, unless you absolutely need a 4090 for some reason, you can get basically the same performance from and, for 70% of the cost

For years, Intel's compiler, math library MKL and their profiler, VTune, really only worked well with their own CPUs. There was in fact code that decreased performance if it detected a non-Intel CPU in place:

https://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49&v=f

That later became part of a larger lawsuit, but since Intel is not discriminating against AMD directly, but rather against all other non-Intel CPUs, the result of the lawsuit was underwhelming. In fact, it's still a problem today:

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/302650-how-to-bypass-matlab-cripple-amd-ryzen-threadripper-cpus

https://medium.com/codex/fixing-intel-compilers-unfair-cpu-dispatcher-part-1-2-4a4a367c8919

Given that the MKL is a widely used library, people also indirectly suffer from this if they buy an AMD CPU and utilize software that links against that library.

As someone working in low-level optimization, that was/is a shitty situation. I still bought an AMD CPU after the latest fiasco a couple of weeks ago.

Researchers discover potentially catastrophic exploit present in AMD chips for decades

I'm still staying with my 5950X. So many cores!

Also on the 7800X3D. I think I switched at just the right time. I've been on Intel since the Athlon XP. The next buy would have been 13/14th gen.

Researchers discover potentially catastrophic exploit present in AMD chips for decades

I loved my FX cpu but I lived in a desert and the heat in the summer coming off that thing would make my room 100F or more. First machine I built a custom water loop for. Didn't help with the heat in the room, but did stop it from shutting down randomly, so I could continue to sit in the sweltering heat in my underpants and play video games until dawn. Better times.

Just out of curiosity, when you say better battery performance, what kind of battery are we talking about? Is this in a laptop, a desktop on some sort of remote/ backup system?

It's not easy to make shit that doesn't work if you care about what you're doing. I bet there's angry debates between engineers and business majors behind many of these enshitifications.

Though, for these Intel ones, they might have been less angry and more "are you sure these risks are worth taking?" because they probably felt like they had to push them to the extreme to compete. The angry conversations probably happened 5-10 years ago before AMD brought the pressure when Intel was happy to assume they had no competition and didn't have to improve things that much to keep making a killing. At this point, it's just a scramble to make up for those decisions and catch up. Which their recent massive layoffs won't help with.

Most of the time, the product itself comes out of engineering just fine and then it gets torn up and/or ruined by the business side of the company. That said, sometimes people do make mistakes - in my mind, it’s more of how they’re handled by the company (oftentimes poorly). One of the products my team worked on a few years ago was one that required us to spin up our own ASIC. We spun one up (in the neighborhood of ~20-30 million dollars USD), and a few months later, found a critical flaw in it. So we spun up a second ASIC, again spending $20-30M, and when we were nearly going to release the product, we discovered a bad flaw in the new ASIC. The products worked for the most part, but of course not always, as the bug would sometimes get hit. My company did the right thing and never released the product, though.

This. Full AMD on my last build as well.

I don't care about any corp, I was looking at best bang for buck at the time. I was shocked how everyone I knew was like you should get this intel or that Nvidia, and when I asked why not <comparable performance AMD at 2/3 the price>, all I was getting back was marketing blabber.

Researchers discover potentially catastrophic exploit present in AMD chips for decades

Most of the shopping I've been helping people with lately has been for laptops. And while there are slightly more AMD options then before laptops are still dominated by Intel for the most part. Especially if you're trying to help someone pick something while on a tighter budget.

Researchers discover potentially catastrophic exploit present in AMD chips for decades

They're both very flawed

I'm not up to speed on the discovery you linked. It appears to be a vulnerability that can't be exploited remotely? If so, how is this the same as Intel chips causing widespread system instability?

Buddy, Intel ain't a woman and even if they were they'd never fellate you.

This isn't the first time such a vulnerability has been found, have you forgotten spectre/meltdown? Though this is arguably not nearly as impactful as those because it requires physical access to the machine.

Your fervour in trying to paint this as an equivalent problem to Intel's 13th and 14th Feb defects, and implication that everyone else are being fanboys, is just telling on yourself mate. Normal people don't go to bat like that for massive corpos, only Kool aid drinkers.

not gonna lie u look a lot like a fanboy urself idk ur just giving off "my beloved intel looks so bad here that i can directly say its better so ill just both sides with some dumb thing" energy