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[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Oh no, I don't want that. Paper documents have a chain of custody and can be directly verified in a manner that is transparent to both the document holder and the border agent.

This AI vision shit is dark magic even to the people that deploy it. Not good.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"dark magic" is the wrong term here because it's not magic dark or not, "black box" would be more apt

Also, I just wanted the paper documents to be digitized for easy carry on my phone, this biometric AI crap is going way too far

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's viewed as magic, and referred to in magical terms. But yes most neural nets/machine learning/vectored transforms are black boxes.

And yes, the paper documents being referenced by a direct scan/rfid hashed value or other similar digital document is still within the chain of custody.

I think my issue is I'm not in direct possession of my ID with a system like this. Too many times the image recognition has been wrong for me to trust something like this.

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/04/08/police-artificial-intelligence-facial-recognition-clearview-ai-social-media

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/police-facial-recognition-technology-cant-tell-black-people-apart/

And these systems are too susceptible to abuse, which especially is a concern in the Emirates and similar governments

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/06/cop-busted-for-unauthorized-use-of-clearview-ai-facial-recognition-resigns/

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

My biggest concern with all of this is more data storage and privacy. I'm not necessarily opposed to biometric identity verification, because realistically this is the direction the world is heading and it probably is the best way to securely and accurately identify individuals. What I do caution is how this data can possibly be stolen, manipulated, and/or sold. Marketing companies and malicious actors would be salivating over that data, and all it takes is one fuck up to turn a reasonable identity program into a dystopian nightmare. The lighter/more benign possibility being that you just get bombarded with ads, the worse being some douche in an windowless office insinuating your propensity for crime and making life difficult.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

As if the slavery wasn't enough of a reason to never go to the UAE.