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[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Are you joking? Lemmy is basically unmoderated, and the little moderation we have is trash.

[–] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Thats the neat part about lemmy, every instance can do their own thing.

If you're not happy with the moderation you currently have, you can always check out other instances

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Moderation is community level though.

If you bubble everything up to instance admins they basically melt from the effort.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can’t speak for other instances, but we don’t melt from the effort.

[–] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We don't either

[–] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

Yes and no

If one of our users report something on lemmy.world for example we can remove it for all our users.

So yes, the post still exists but from the perspective of our instance it's removed.

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[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is a precise depiction of both Lemmy and Reddit, surprisingly.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (9 children)

I don’t know why people keep attributing privacy to Lemmy when ActivityPub is anything but.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Is ActivityPub logging which IP I post from? Is ActivityPub monitoring which communities I view? Is ActivityPub blocking me from browsing with my VPN on?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is ActivityPub logging which IP I post from?

That depends on the implementation.

Is ActivityPub monitoring which communities I view?

That depends on the implementation.

Is ActivityPub blocking me from browsing with my VPN on?

That—believe it or not—depends on the implementation.

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

We already have an implementation. You me and OP are all on Lemmy. So can you answer these in the context of Lemmy again?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I actually can’t answer them, because I only admin this instance, I don’t run it.

While I’m sure this is not the case, it’s entirely possible that the people who do run this instance are running a fork of it that does all of those things. It couldn’t log your IP address or block your VPN, but it could mine, and your instance could yours. And I haven’t read the Lemmy source code, so I don’t know what even an unmodified Lemmy logs.

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[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Many Lemmy instances block VPN posting. You can view, but not vote or post. I have a secondary private VPN I use sometimes for that. But honestly the whole thing just sucks.

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And generally that's fine. If you're posting stuff publicly, expect it to be public.

Lemmy gives away for free what Reddit is desperately trying to put up walls on so they can sell it, but I wouldn't call it "private" because it's monetized.

Lemmy is the opposite of privacy, and that just makes sense if you 🤔.

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[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That was what I was going to say.

That said, if someone detects some sort of data-mining plagiarism bot sucking down everything on an instance, it can be defederated very quickly.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

New instances basically suck down everything as the most normal use case. That's what activitypub is for.

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The one I can search posts from about a very specific issue or question I have with google

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The main problem is, people are not aware of the left path

[–] Schal330@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is the onboarding experience any better? I remember the initial process of joining Lemmy felt very shady and not user friendly. That can be a massive deterrent for people joining. Then on top of that having to filter out all the communities that are not to my taste.

Overall it was a messy non-user friendly experience, but now that I'm here I'm happy.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I tried to recruit a friend of mine but the moment I tried to explain instances to him, he zoned out. I wouldn’t call it non-user friendly, but it’s not as simple and dumbed down like other social media is.

Also roughly a year ago there have been a couple of articles thrown around on Twitter and certain subreddits which wrote about CP stuff going on on Mastodon. So the Fediverse had some bad press. Which is rich coming from the site that allowed people like Violentacrez to fester.

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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Well the main problem is that the left path has about a tenth the content.

And also that Redditors are terrified of change.

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 2 months ago

about a tenth the content

I fucking wish.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So many communities simply don't have alternatives here. But I'm happier with the quality of the communities that do exist. So what if they don't have spam bots sharing 6-12 month old memes that sometimes make no sense outside the timeframe they were post and users just repeating catch phrases for karma increasing the amount of "content"?

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 0 points 2 months ago

There are like 5 people here to talk about my entire country of 10 million while the Reddit community gets 2000+ every day. Even a karma farmer would help here as long as it's not a bot and occasionally replies to comments.

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Correction to my comment, the right road is wider, and is also a giant glue trap

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago

I think you may be preaching to the choir on this one. 😅

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Uh, no. Better mods is bullshit.

The same powertripping happens here and the admins are just as dismissive.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

I was just re-wiping my Reddit comments with an updated text yesterday and apparently, the word "enshittification" is banned on r/hellsomememes. Seriously?

I miss the content though, and I have too much of a life to create a fediverse community and fill it with content even if it's stolen. Can somebody break Reddit's ToS and set up a reposting bot?

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reposting bots aren't great. It just means a bunch of articles with no comments that make Lemmy look more dead than it actually is.

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[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can you, or anyone, explain to me how tf to do the text overwriting thing? Like, is it even doable for someone who doesn't know the first thing about coding?

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[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

There are some reposting bot, Lemmit comes to mind

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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean by "privacy" on the lemmy side? And aren't the mods mostly the same mods that were active onnreddit before?

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Hi, I'm Serinus of the Lemmy.World Community Team checking in.

And aren't the mods mostly the same mods that were active onnreddit before?

No. Most of the mods from Reddit stayed on Reddit to desperately cling to "power".

Also, if you want to help with this, talk to me about modding a community or two.

in a collaborative website such as a wiki, 90% of the participants of a community only consume content, 9% of the participants change or update content, and 1% of the participants add content.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule

It generally takes about five minutes a month to mod a medium (Lemmy) sized community. I have to beg people to volunteer, and they often turn me down.

Our top mods seem to be great people, but I'm still trying to informally limit how many communities they have in favor of having more diversity and fresh blood. But it's difficult when they're willing to actively help out, and I have to go beg otherwise active people who turn me down.

Please, if you don't like super mods and you want to actually help, go take a look at some of your favorite communities right now. See if the mods have posted in the last couple months. If they haven't, talk to me about modding that community. Mention this post.

[–] humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reddit: porn

Lemmy: no porn

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

There's like, a whole instance for porn.

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[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (22 children)

You can’t unseen the huge one problem that Lemmy has: lack of contents/people

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 0 points 2 months ago

And searching for the said content

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

There is substantially less content , but there is content. I don't get everything I am looking for, but enough to keep me happy

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 months ago

I think most people here would take the left path but there might be a selection bias at play

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