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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

As I mentioned in another post, about the same topic:

Slapping the words “artificial intelligence” onto your product makes you look like those shady used cars salesmen: in the best hypothesis it’s misleading, in the worst it’s actually true but poorly done.

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (11 children)

LLMs: using statistics to generate reasonable-sounding wrong answers from bad data.

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[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I think AI has mostly been about luring investors into pumping up share prices rather than offering something of genuine value to consumers.

Some people are gonna lose a lot of other people's money over it.

[–] peto@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

A lot of it is follow the leader type bullshit. For companies in areas where AI is actually beneficial they have already been implementing it for years, quietly because it isn't something new or exceptional. It is just the tool you use for solving certain problems.

Investors going to bubble though.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago

My doorbell camera manufacturer now advertises their products as using, "Local AI" meaning, they're not relying on a cloud service to look at your video in order to detect humans/faces/etc. Honestly, it seems like a good (marketing) move.

[–] spiderman@ani.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, can make some products better but most of the products these days that use AI, it doesn't actually need them. It's annoying to use products that actively shovel AI when it doesn't even need it.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Ya know what pfoduct MIGHT be better with AI?

Toasters. They have ONE JOB, and everybody agrees their toaster is crap. But you're not going to buy another toaster, because that too will be crap.

How about a toaster, that accurately, and evenly toasts your bread, and then DOESN'T give you a heart attack at 5am when you're still half asleep???

IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK???

[–] T156@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nah. We already have AI toasters, and they're ambitious, but rubbish.

Adding AI is just serious overkill for a toaster, especially when it wouldn't add anything meaningful, not compared to just designing the toaster better.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

It only needs one string of conditions that it can understand: don't catch on fire. Turn yourself off IF smoke.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] paw@feddit.org 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Aw man, now I want this toaster.

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago

I said the exact same thing months ago when I saw that video. I don’t even use a toaster.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

This is the visionary we need. Take my venture capital millions on a magic carpet ride, time traveler!

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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yes, I'm getting some serious dot-com bubble vibes from the whole AI thing. But the dot-com boom produced Amazon, and every company is basically going all-in in the hope they are the new Amazon while in the end most will end up like pets.com but it's a risk they're willing to take.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (6 children)

“You might lose all your money, but that is a risk I’m willing to take”

  • visionairy AI techbro talking to investors
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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

OpenAI will fail. StabilityAI will fail. CivitAI will prevail, mark my words.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I tried to find the advert but I see this on YouTube a lot - an Adobe AI ad which depicts, without shame, AI writing out a newsletter/promo for a business owner's new product (cookies or ice cream or something), showing the owner putting no effort into their personal product and a customer happily consuming because they were attracted by the thoughtless promo.

How are producers/consumers okay with everything being so mediocre??

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

How are producers/consumers okay with everything being so mediocre??

"You're always trying to make everything just a little bit worse so that you can feel good about having a lot more of it. I love it. It's so human!" - The Good Place

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[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Definitely. Many companies have implemented AI without thinking with 3 brain cells.

Great and useful implementation of AI exists, but it's like 1/100 right now in products.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

If my employer is anything to go by, much of it is just unimaginative businesspeople who are afraid of missing out on what everyone else is selling.

At work we were instructed to shove ChatGPT into our systems about a month after it became a thing. It makes no sense in our system and many of us advised management it was irresponsible since it's giving people advice of very sensitive matters without any guarantee that advice is any good. But no matter, we had to shove it in there, with small print to cover our asses. I bet no one even uses it, but sales can tell customers the product is "AI-driven".

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

My old company before they laid me off laid off our entire HR and Comms teams in exchange for ChatGPT Enterprise.

“We can just have an AI chatbot for HR and pay inquiries and ask Dall-e to create icons and other content”.

A friend who still works there told me they’re hiring a bunch of “prompt engineers” to improve the quality of the AI outputs haha

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

That's an even worse 'use case' than I could imagine.

HR should be one of the most protected fields against AI, because you actually need a human resource.

And "prompt engineer" is so stupid. The "job" is only necessary because the AI doesn't understand what you want to do well enough. The only productive guy you could hire would be a programmer or something, that could actually tinker with the AI.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

I'm sorry. Hope you find a better job, on the inevitable downswing of the hype, when someone realizes that a prompt can't replace a person in customer service. Customers will invest more time, i.e., even wait in a purposely engineered holding music hell, to have a real person listen to them.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

God that sounds like hell.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

I have no qualms about AI being used in products. But when you have to tell me that something is "powered by AI" as if that's your main selling point, then you do not have a good product. Tell me what it does, not how it does it.

[–] ironcrotch@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago

I get AI has its uses but I don’t need my mouse to have any thing AI related (looking at you Logitech).

[–] muculent@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hi, I'm annoying and want to be helpful. Am I helpful? If I repeat the same options again when you've told me I'm not helpful, will that be helpful? I won't remember this conversation once it's ended.

Hi, which option have you told me you already don't want would you like?

Sorry, I didn't quite catch that, please rage again.

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[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Market shows that investors are actively turned on by products that use AI

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

There are different types of people in the market. The informed ones hate AI, and the uninformed love it. The informed ones tend to be the cornerstones of businesses, and the uninformed ones tend to be in charge.

So we have... All this. All this nonsense. All because of stupid managers.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Market shows that the market buys into hype, not value.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Market shows that hype is a cycle and the AI hype is nearing its end.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How can you tell when the cycle is ending?

[–] riskable@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago

When one of two things happens:

  • A new hype starts to replace it (can happen fast though!)
  • The hype starts to specialize into subcategories of the hype (e.g. AI images, AI videos, AI text generation)

When "AI" hype dies down we are likely to see "AI" removed from various topics because enough people know and understand the hyped parent topic. It'll just be "image generation", "video generation", "generated text", etc.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's the new block chain or NFT hype, they think it's magic.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

But what if it actually is magic this time? Just this once!? And we miss the hype train?! (This is a sarcastic impression of real conversations I have had.)

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