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Cybersecurity firm Crowdstrike pushed an update that caused millions of Windows computers to enter recovery mode, triggering the blue screen of death. Learn ...

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[–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (11 children)

Are there really a billion systems in the world that run Crowdstrike? That seems implausible. Is it just hyperbole?

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Apparently it's embedded in Windows through a specific security option ("Falcon Sensor").

Probably not directly impacting home desktop PCs around the world, and not even most companies running windows, but likely to be active on the big, critical ones.

A billions of computers seems like a lot though.

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago

I doubt it's too much of a stretch, since even here in australia, we've had multiple airlines, news stations, banks, supermarkets and many others, including the aluminium extrusion business my father works at, all go down, scale this do hundreds of countries with populations tenfold of ours, it puts it into perspective that there may even be more than a billion machines affected

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Despite how it may seem on Lemmy, most people have not yet actually switched to Linux. This stat is legit.

[–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I know that Windows is everywhere, I just don't know the percentage of Windows computers that run Crowdstrike.

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[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

Sounds pretty plausible to me. An organization doesn’t have to be very big to get into the hundreds or thousands of devices on a network when you account for servers and VM.

A company with 40 employees all accessing and RDS server using a company laptop is looking at 85+ devices already

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Also:

Crowd strike should be held responsible, and with that I don't mean the developmers who were forced to do this shit, I mean the ceo, the CTO.

Jail them.

If you are so critical you better not fuck around and I can guarantee you, they were fucking around, pushing bad practices, etc. why do I say that? Because its lways like that

That comp ay should be dissolved, the C suite jailed.

Also, STOP USING WINDOWS FOR DESKTOP FOR FRACK SAKE. Switch to Linux already, I'm getting tired of having to read this shit.

If you're using windows for servers then you deserve your place right next to those C suite guys and gals

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago

Sure, throw people in jail who haven't committed a crime, that'll fix all kinds of systemic issues

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 0 points 7 months ago (4 children)

How about holding an investigation first? You know, just to see where the wrongdoing happened and who actually perpetrated it. (It just might have been a bitter developer or something.)

Also, if people want to use windows, it’s their choice and their consequences. Government and corporate services might do well to consider Linux, but most people don’t even know what a command line is.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

but most people don’t even know what a command line is.

Still with this? Jeez.. that's like saying people probably won't adopt tv today because it's still black and white.

Linux cli is great and many of us use it because of that, but it's been at least 15 years that a regular user would not ever NEED to use it to do anything in linux

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna be honest, I had to use it last night, but that was because I was installing a non-Steam Windows game (Simcity 2013) and needed to use winetricks on the terminal to configure something before it would launch. If you are doing anything outside the predefined and preconfigured stuff, it can still get pretty hairy sometimes.

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[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago

If your (large scale) security system is designed properly a bitter developer can't break it. It would take deliberate collusion from multiple people to do so.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Government and corporate services might do well to consider Linux, but most people don’t even know what a command line is.

While this is true, Linux is not the only operating system which is not Windows.

Haiku doesn't require you to do much with CLI.

OpenBSD is Unix with the accompanying culture, but it's just more coherent to the degree that both CLI's are very simple for administration (the way I use my non-work machine, I sometimes think that maybe I should switch ; lacking Wine and games would be an advantage, not a disadvantage) and GUI's to do it have fewer problems than in Linux. NetBSD - a bit more messy, but same as compared to Linux, FreeBSD - even more, but same as compared to Linux. I'm talking about the base system, because X, desktop environments and such are the same.

This doesn't solve the problem of Windows device drivers' support, which is realistically the main thing you'd need for an OS to be popular. Applications are important, but I think if Altera would have a big buyer willing to run Altium on Linux workstations, they'd find in themselves the effort needed make it work in Wine.

But then there was time when ndiswrapper and ndisgen were a thing for Linux and FreeBSD users. Things may have gotten much more complex, but it's a matter of demand.

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago (6 children)

You make Linux users look bad. Please cease.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To be fair this seems to be the sentiment on most Linux and linux-ancillary forums.

Which while wrong and ignorant on multiple levels, seems on brand none the less.

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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Also, STOP USING WINDOWS FOR DESKTOP FOR FRACK SAKE. Switch to Linux already, I'm getting tired of having to read this shit."

1000% agreed

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Lol good fuckin luck.

In a corporate environment you just aren't getting what you need out of Linux that you don't of windows for many of the kinds of endpoints affected.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And for the 451855528th time: switch to Linux already. Why do people keep paying for this shit? Every time I get excuses. I switched to a Linux desktop 20 years ago. There were enout moments that I needed to tweak things to make it work but for the last decade, I haven't had any issues.

If you're dum enough to use windows for servers then you just deserve to burn, if you make that decision then its all on you.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago (7 children)

You make Linux users look bad

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They wouldn't if they were consistent and had also left degenerate social media (which Lemmy is part of, despite being much better than corporate alternatives). But then they also wouldn't because we wouldn't read it here.

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[–] kogasa@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This has nothing to do with Windows or Linux. Crowdstrike has in fact broken Linux installs in a fairly similar way before.

[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Don’t worry, if it had broken in Linux, these same posters would be railing on CrowdStrike directly, but since it broke on Windows, onvisoult Microsoft is to blame.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's because Windows is crap software. Just stop using anything Microsoft makes.

[–] MetaCubed@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (4 children)

This was very much not caused by windows

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't hear about billions of Linux or Mac computers going down all at the same time. I'm hearing that windows allows a simple text file change to bring down all of them at the same time.

[–] MetaCubed@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Calling a kernel mode driver a "simple text file" sure is interesting

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[–] brognak@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Weird, cus it literally happened a few months ago:

https://www.neowin.net/news/crowdstrike-broke-debian-and-rocky-linux-months-ago-but-no-one-noticed/

This was in no way a Windows problem, this was entirely a CrowdStrike problem. Claiming otherwise makes you look like an uninformed moron.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (6 children)

In a way, it was. If Windows was not as crappy as it is, external solutions would not be needed.

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