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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Can someone in non marketing terms explain what the fuck CrowdStrike Falcon Sensor is? I literally never heard of this company or product before.

[–] farcaster@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (9 children)

It's basically corporate anti-virus software. Intended to detect and prevent malware.

[–] Alimentar@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Apparently it's the next iteration of AI based antivirus where it uses smart algorithms to detect system behaviours and makes assessments on whether they're malicious or not

[–] sukotai@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

obviously, A.I consider microsoft as a malicious software. Sometimes, A.I is very accurate 😁

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 months ago

Apparently it's the next iteration of AI based antivirus

CrowdskyStrikenet

[–] greybeard@lemmy.one 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know there is a lot of marketing fluff, but yes, it is an EDR. Which means instead of just checking file signatures against a database if known bad stuff, it actually examines what applications do and makes a sort of judgement on if it is acting maliciously or not. I use a similar product. Although the false positives can sometimes be baffling, it honestly can catch a legit program misbehaving.

On top of that, everything is logged. Every file, network connection, or registry key that every process on the computer touches is logged. That means when something happens, you can see the full and complete list of actions taken by the malicious system. Thus can actually be a drain on the computer, but modern systems handle it well enough.

[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What do you use? I’d be interested in that sort of thing

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[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It checks for malicious falcons in your system's level 4 aviary cache.

[–] horseloaf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Ha ha! Well done!

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[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

This is going to turn out it was a hack in several months right?

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hacks of this grade tend to be targeted, this is most likely incompetence.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A lot of companies will get calls from the "provider" offering help with mitigation so that additional features can also be installed. This is a time to be extra weary.

[–] reattach@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

FYI, I think you mean "wary," but this is one of those happy accidents where the wrong word also works in its own way.

[–] Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Think big. This may have had a target. But hitting the target only wasn't possible so everyone got hit.

It's possible those responsible only had this weapon that was capable of hitting the target, maybe the plan was to disrupt world flights to make someone late tomorrow, who knows. Maybe poo-tin or Xi-the-Pooh wanted to hit America and its allies?

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[–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Won't take that long, security researchers are already decompiling the update to see if it was malicious or incompetence.

[–] Balinares@pawb.social 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You won't find the incompetence in the software no matter what.

If you fail to assume that the software contains issues -- if you fail to understand that your software is made by humans and humans make mistakes, not because they're bad but because they're human -- and if you fail to implement mechanisms to feel gracefully with inevitable failures, THAT is the incompetence.

Failures are systemic.

[–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 months ago

Oh yes I make those failures myself, testing and staging and limited release schedules save my human failures from breaking the world

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

Systemic failures are incompetence.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No idea why this relatively banal truth is getting so many downvotes

[–] Balinares@pawb.social 0 points 2 months ago

One funny thing about humans is that they aren't just gloriously fallible: they also get quite upset when that's pointed out. :)

Unfortunately, that's also how you end up with blameful company cultures that actively make reliability worse, because then your humans make just the same amounts of mistakes, but they hide them -- and you never get a chance to evolve your systems with the safeguards that would have prevented these.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is going to be Solarwinds all over again I can just smell it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah.. applicable on soo many levels.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Never attribute to maliciousness that which can be explained by incompetence.

That said, I'm sure the Crowdstrike CEO is currently on a phone call with three of their pet Congresscritters asking if they can get a $100M grant to harden their systems against Russia/China/NKorea/Antifa interference right now.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

While being simultaneously gang...handled by the unnamed 3-letter agencies representatives

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[–] Australis13@fedia.io 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is why you do staged rollouts of updates... not the entire planet at once.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And don't have automatic updates enabled for critical infrastructure.

[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

So true, this really highlights the risk of updates impacting critical systems vs critical systems being exposed to critical vulnerabilities. Its a real balancing act.

[–] Thann@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (11 children)

No, you run Linux with automatic secutity updates turned on

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I work in QA on the night shift at a video game company. It was absolute chaos at work tonight lmao we only had a grand total of 6 working PCs between all of us

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Looking forward to the Kevin Fang video in a few years.

[–] falx@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What a striking name... CrowdStrike heh. They definitely live up to it!

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

More like CrashStrike

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Company spyware. We have that on our devices. They used to have an “about” stored locally on the app, but removed it and a web connection is required to view the docs. Basically says it downloads/sees everything on your device and checks for threats. Thing is a few people have been fired for having things in their devices they shouldn’t. I didn’t ask what it was, nor did I hear how these things were “threats”, but nonetheless they were fired. Too many people treat company hardware like “free device, bro!” and put all sorts of personal stuff on the device. Most industries it’s probably not too big of a deal, but for mine if there’s an incident that happens when you were busy watching Netflix or something instead of doing your job you’re fucked. First thing they’ll do is check your device and crowdstrike to see what you were doing.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

They definitely could, but most cybersecurity departments are paid too much to worry about minor items like that. If HR tells us to look into a specific user and gets the proper approvals so that everything is in compliance, we'll definitely get someone on the team to do it, but otherwise if we happen to see evidence of unapproved usage, we're mostly going to overlook it unless it could lead to something dangerous to your machine or the company as a whole.

EDRs like Crowdstrike can see very very nearly everything you do though, definitely everything you would care about.

[–] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yikes. I feel sorry for all the help desk and support staff that has to deal with this chaotic mess all day.

[–] worldeater@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

Yup, my phone is nonstop going off with slack messages and tickets. Time to mute it for now

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What kind of criminally incompetent psychopath rolls out a global update on a fucking Friday afternoon?

Is the CEO of CrowdStrike Satan?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

They push updates every day. Attackers don't take Fridays off.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

They'll need that beer.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Crowstrike Onstrike

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