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[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So awhile back I tried this by having my system SSD be a smaller 500GB drive and I had another 1 TB SSD for games but turns out I was doing it all wrong.

Seriously just invest in a 1 or 2TB M.2 SSD and thank me later, especially if you’re on windows. Then have a hard drive for programs you care less about and for data storage. My current config has even kept the 1TB SSD as an auxiliary gaming drive that I use for games of lesser importance or demand.

I just wouldn’t ever put a windows install onto a drive that’s slower than any of your other drives and also you have to be very careful about the size of that drive. I tried to do this on a 100GB SSD like a decade ago and it didn’t go very well

[–] UxyIVrljPeRl@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If you have enough data for a extra hard drive id recommend a nas.

A good 2Bay one is between 100 and 200. Add 2 drives for a raid 1 and your data is protected against drive failure. Now you have a storage place that is accessible from all Devices. Wanna watch a video?Well its there and playable from PC, Phone or your TV.

[–] pulverizedcoccyx@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You know how that goes though, now the ethernet isn't fast enough to allow that nas experience to be seamless. 2.5gbit... 10gbit? Now you need a new switch maybe a new router too. It just goes downhill from there haha

[–] UxyIVrljPeRl@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

One of us! One of us! One of us! One of us!

Funnily enough, network is the only thing i didnt touch. I changed my habbits so that my server does all the work/heavy lifting. I started with a cheap 2bay nas, switched to a 4bay micro server, that i later modified to 5 for an cache ssd. From there i build a am4 machine from scratch and added a ups.

Currengly im waiting gor a good deal on drives as the used space slowly creeps from 22tib to 23tib(100% used)

[–] Snowyday@startrek.website 0 points 3 months ago

I’m dumb. Any advice on how to get started with something like that? I’d appreciate product recommendations appropriate for a newb

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I did the same. Have not had any real problems with the configuration. I would have gone for more storage but high speed high capacity ssds do get expensive.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 0 points 3 months ago

What the f*** is this? Where's my TÜV? This is even a German license plate, what the third-world-hell is going on here

[–] fl42v@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

*ssd. HDDs are somewhat good for storing large amounts of data, and the os ain't it (unless windows, probably)

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have a 256gb ssd for the os since windows likes to devour hardrive space for reasons unclear to me, a 2tb ssd for games and other applications I need to move quickly, and a 2tb hdd for general storage. It all works pretty well together.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

macOS is pretty bad about using up storage space. There are always huge 10gb+ cache files for cloud related stuff. Even if I’m like, don’t store it locally.

I’ve not used macOS in years, so many that issue has been resolved.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

macOS is pretty bad

Could have just stopped there 🤷

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I still prefer it over windows. If it were not for their absurd pricing, I’d have a MacBook Air over my thinkpad.

I’d much prefer to run Linux, but I’ve yet to find a way to do my main work task on something other than Mac or windows.

[–] Zangoose@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Honestly if it weren't for the headache of some software still not ported over to arm 4 years later, Macs would be pretty good for software development since they have a lot of the POSIX tooling.

For the same reason I have windows so that games will "just work," I have Linux so my programming setup will "just work." Low level languages like C/C++ are so much easier to work with on Linux.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That reminds me of when I used to have an iPhone and needed to free up storage, and there was this cursed mysterious "other data" block that took up like a majority of it.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

System drive: 1TB
Use case: Very important stuff like drivers etc. or programs that refuse to use anything besides C:\ or put their stuff into AppData.

Gamedrive: 4TB.
use case: Roms, game launchers, emulator files.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

For my main machine: Sys, 1TB. Games, 4TB (actually 2x 2TB in raid0). Backups and misc: 10TB. Daily backups, g/f/s for sys, and incremental daily with monthly full for games.

Then I have all my media and actual files on a nas, along with the desktop, documents, downloads synced between all machines; any files that are for storage and drive images (for machines with only 1 drive and cannot manage images locally) get stored here too. 2x 10TB.

Then those drives are in raid1, are under btrfs with snapshot abilities, are backed up to a 8TB external every month, and unplugged after a successful backup to avoid a ransomware attack scenario. This drive is actively cooled to prevent overheating with hours of read/write activity. Every night, critical files are also backed up to two different off-site data storage services, on different continents.

I got tired of data loss 15 years ago, and now I horde everything, but it's all for a purpose. Game saves, stories, photos, archived projects long forgotten, and so much more.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ok, why do you have 1TB sys drive?

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That was my previous game drive, and I had a small ssd (I think 256GB).

E: to clarify, I went from sata to nvme, and the sata ssd is now in another machine. The drive that came out of that machine is 480GB and is now powering a Debian 12 server.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I just slap two 1tb nvme drives in raid0 to get 2tb and all the speeds. If it comes crashing down all my stuff is stored on my server that I care about and I try to not keep more than a few games installed plus with fiber it takes a few minutes to re-download anyways, now I just need to setup a regular backup of my config. I have a habit of doing a clean install every few months so I'm used to living mostly off my server at this point

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago

NixOS is whispering in your ear

[–] moody@lemmings.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My OS takes up about 25gb. I have individual games that take up more than 100gb. That kind of OS/storage split is necessary nowadays.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

How do you install a window game to a drive other than c??

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I recall installers always asking you where you want to install things. Sometimes, that's hidden behind "custom install" or something like that. Is that not the case anymore?

[–] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It'll generally default to C drive on Windows. Most of the time, you'd click "browse" and select another drive.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I just highlight the "C" portion of the path and change it to "D." No browsing, and the program gets put in whatever folder it wanted to be in.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Also in Steam you can add a library anywhere you want and it'll install and manage your games there. :)

[–] Zangoose@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

In steam at least there's a setting to add a separate steam library at another folder. You can make that folder on your other drive and then have new games install there by default.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

By telling it to install to d, e, f, or whatever drive you want in the installer. You may have to choose the {advanced install options] for some programs, but it's always possible to change the path of installation.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

With wine. And some alcohol.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't see what Alcohol 120% has to do with anything lol

[–] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

120% vodka goes really hard. That's 20% more ethanol per ethanol.

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[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago

Steam lets you install on any drive. You can set it as a default.

My D drive is for games, and my E drive is for spillover games.

[–] Baku@aussie.zone 0 points 2 months ago

I mostly get my games through steam, which allows you to set multiple library locations, and then asks which drive you want them installed on. Besides that, every game or program installer I've ever used has asked me which drive I want it installed onto, although sometimes you need to check the custom install box first

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

256 GB root NVMe, 1 TB games hdd, 3* 256 GB SSD as raid 0 for local backups, 256 GB HDD for data, 256 GB SSD for VM images.

[–] Jeroen@lemmings.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why would you put local backups on RAID 0?

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Because that's what Raid 0 for, basically adding together storage space with faster reads and writes. The local backups are basically just to have earlier versions of (system) files, incrementally every hour, for reference or restoring. In case something goes wrong with the main root NVMe and a backup SSD at the same time (eg. trojan wiping everything), I still have exactly the same backups on my "workstation" (beefier server), on also a RAID 0 of 3 1 TB HDDs. And in case the house burns down or something, there are still daily full backups on Google Cloud and Hetzner.

[–] Longpork3@lemmy.nz 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Raid 0 offers no redundancy though. If any of those three disks fail, you lose the entire volume.

For the sake of backups, switching to Raid 5 would be more robust

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

If it fails, I will just throw in a new SSD and redo the backup. I sometimes delete everything and redo it anyway, for various reasons. In any case, I usually have all copies of all files on the original drive, as local backup on the device and backup on the workstation. And even if those three should fail - which I will immediately know, due to monitoring the systemd job - I still have daily backups on two different, global hosters as well as the seperate NAS. The only case in which all full backups would be affected would be a global destruction of all electronics due to solar storms or a general destruction of earth, in which case that's the least of my problems. And in case the house burns down, and I only have the daily backups, potentially losing 24 hours of data, that's also the least of my problems. Yes, generally using Raid 5 for backups is better, but in my case I have multiple copies of the same data at all times, surpassing the 321 rule (by far - 622, and soon 623). As all of my devices are connected via Gigabit, getting backups from eg. the workstation after the PC (with backups) died is just as fast as getting backups from the local PC backup Raid itself. And using Raid 0 is better (in speeds) than just slapping them together in series.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

well i dont need much space for my minimal linux install.

games, however, are getting bigger and bigger.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When I built a new PC last year, I was wondering how I managed to filled up a 4TB NVME in only 6 months... until I downloaded one of those programs that breaks down your hard drive usage.

Games, it's all games. I don't even consider myself a gamer. I can't even begin to imagine the struggle of an actual gamer who is still stuck with a 256GB SATA SSD as their only high speed drive. What do you do when nearly every game that comes out these days is 100GB+ and requires an SSD?

[–] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

until I downloaded one of those programs that breaks down your hard drive usage.

Is it baobab?

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It blows me away when I play a game like Valheim or Vampire Survivor and find out the game that took 1000 hours of my life is smaller than a two hour movie.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Meanwhile Quake: I took you life and soul in 50 megabytes

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago

Also the system files aren't really the most important files. While it's a pain in the ass, you can reinstall your OS and get that all back again.

Reinstalling all of your games is going to take more time, and if you lost a save file, well you're never getting that back. Personal photos, videos, etc. are even a bigger priority.

So I tend to to think of the drive /home is mounted on to be the "primary drive" as it's the most important. The root is just the system files, needed for the OS, but not nearly as important as /home.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not me got a 4tb gen 3 nvne for my main and a 2tb gen4 nvme + 2tb sata ssd.... And a 18tb, 12tb, 4tb, 3tb, 1tb HDD for other things....

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good golly gee whiz that's a lotta porn! You saving up for a rainy day or somethin?

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

Sorry, that first line reminded me of this

The zombie apocalypse, also known as DJT winning the presidency, somehow... Again...

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How do you even manage that much storage? Btrfs or snapraid or something?

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[–] lengau@midwest.social 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like attaching a second drive to my deck defeats the purpose

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

I feel like the Deck is Steam's biggest flex yet. PC Gaming in the palm of your hand.

Switch is almost a full gen behind and it's the next best competitor.

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