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Somebody just lost their job..
well at least they know the rocket works now
Until that mountain got in its way anyways
Video of the accidental ascent
Is anyone speaking Chinese able to tell me what the guy in the first scene of the video is crying out? The one where the rocket falls horizontally. I mean, I have a general idea what is being said there conceptually, but I'd love to get an actual, accurate translation.
Basically it's two people saying "Is it falling? Wouldn't it explode? I'm recording it. Fuck the rocket is falling!"
From 5-8 seconds, the person seems to be saying争着争着中火大了, which doesn't mean anything to me, but it may be something of the local dialect.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
According to a statement from the company, the rocket was not sufficiently clamped down and blasted off from the test stand "due to a structural failure."
Video of the accidental ascent showed the rocket rising several hundred meters into the sky before it crashed explosively into a mountain 1.5 km away from the test site.
The statement from Space Pioneer sought to downplay the incident, saying it had implemented safety measures before the test, and there were no casualties as a result of the accident.
Located in the Henan province in eastern China, alongside the Yellow River, Gongyi has a population of about 800,000 people.
Typically, during a static fire test, the mass of propellant on board a vehicle combined with strong clamps hold a rocket down.
This was a notable achievement, but the rocket's engines were provided by a Chinese state-operated firm, the Academy of Aerospace Liquid Propulsion Technology, rather than the private company.
The original article contains 572 words, the summary contains 155 words. Saved 73%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Anyone else curious about the off-camera person who sounds like a cowering goblin?
Real life Kerbal Space Program accident.
But at least they already figured out how to land on the Mun and come back. They just need to go back to a previous save.
Someone messed up their staging... again.
Lives were lost, equipment destroyed, lessons has been learned-ish.
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I feel slightly better knowing that the Chinese suffer from Chinesium-based products as much as we do.
I suspect it's actually worse there. This guy has a series called "China fakes everything" which is worth watching
I watched a couple videos from this channel and done a bit of research and:
- This guy never cites or show any sources and
- based on his video on the Falun Gong he actively twist the Truth
I would recommend not to listen to a random guy who claims to be an "insider"
I don't think what he's saying about Falun Gong is so far fetched to be outside the realm of plausibility.
There's been enough reports of similar treatment of other groups, like the Uyghurs and Tibetans, from reputable sources that I believe something is going on there.
As for sources, if the CCP is half as bad as he makes them out to be, it would be irresponsible of him to give sources.
I don't know enough to refute anything you've said, but frankly you're less credible than him right now. I mean no offense but you have a single comment on your account and you've offered nothing to support your claim of twisted truth.
Too much smoke to conclude there's no fire
I'm not saying that the persecution against Falung Gong is fake, actually I believe is true, violence against minorities is another Wednesday for the CCP, but he specifically say that, and I quote: "Falun Gong is a meditation practice that started in 1992 in China. At the core of the Falun Gong are values of truthfulness, compassion and tolerance." But the omits the fact that that group is anti gay, anti feminism, anti evolution, is anti medicine and is leader is worshipped as a deity. I wouldn't consider someone who spread such lies as a good source, because at that point he could be lying about anything, that's Alex Jones level of manipulation of the Truth. And you're right, the CCP is a terrible dictatorship, b8t all the info that I have said are freely accessible by an internet search, or even on Wikipedia, they're not some hidden secret that need protection from the CCP such that he have the right to just say things without having to prove them.
And yes, I only have this comments, I prefer to just lurk usually, but this doesn't invalidate my points.
To be fair, none of that was in your original post. Not knowing all of that, I think it was a safe assumption you meant the allegations of mistreatment by the CCP, rather than the Falun Gong claims of benevolence.
Obviously you didn't though, and a quick Google search suggests you might have some valid points. I didn't know any of that!
However, I do want to point out that you could say most of the same things about fundamental Christians, and while I'd personally take the same view of those types ( I do believe they're a dangerous cult) I wouldn't say anyone calling them peaceful religious types was engaging in "Alex Jones level of manipulation of the truth" and wouldn't discount them entirely for holding that view. Particularly when, as you say, it's very likely they are actually being persecuted
But hey, if nothing else I think you've shown that I have no idea what I'm talking about here. Maybe that comparison doesn't actually hold. Also, for all I know he's a bought and paid for propagandist. Honestly, nothing surprises me these days
You're right, I didn't made a good argument in my first comment. I can see how I could have come out as one of "those" CCP defender.
And I also agree about fundamental Christians being basically a coult; when I said "Alex Jones level of manipulation of the truth" I was talking about how Alwx usually takes disreputable sources or missrapresent good ones when making his arguments (like when he said that Putin was a good guy and cited only Russian propaganda outlets, or during the Trump campaign screamed about that the head of the American secret services said that they were going to kill Trump when the guy actually ment that the GOP was (metaphorically) going to kill Trump for the thing he was sayings and that reminded me a bit like how David Than is saying about the Falun Gong, but without the propaganda sources, I could have explained myself better tho).
And don't worry, I have no idea what I'm talking about too, I just Google shit. He gives me bad vibes tho (Vibes, very scientific method of judgment as we all know), he reminds me of some right wing propagandist.
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Lurk less. You're making a good contribution here.
I’m not saying that the persecution against Falung Gong is fake, actually I believe is true, violence against minorities is another Wednesday for the CCP
The Falun Gong was originally an ally of the CCP as recently as 1993. They had a falling out when some of their chief leadership got caught in a string of financial scandals and abuse allegations. Attempts by the state to begin prosecuting church leaders triggered an outcry from the membership, which prompted more arrests and more efforts hide the organizations money, and finally a wholesale exodus from the country by its most devoted members.
Falun Gong leadership arrived in the US and immediately began churning out anti-China spin, with the help of the Epoch Times - an originally Chinese-only paper primarily distributed in Chinese ex-pat communities by church refugees. If you get into the history of the Epoch Times, you should very quickly discover that it is not a reliable source of information.
Which isn't to say China's been great wrt religious freedom or free association. But the modern incarnation of Falun Gong has more in common with Scientology than, say, Mormonism or Baháʼí. You're going to fall down some really QAnon-themed rabbit holes if you take everything their community is saying at face value.
And here's the person who know their shit.
From the 15 minutes on the toilet-grade research that I've done I got the feeling it was a Scientology kind of cult, but I had no idea that they were once affiliated with the CCP.
But now I have looked a bit deeper into them and holy shit they are so much worse then I though. They are so much similar to Scientology in level of infiltration and disinformation about their practices it's a bit scary.
That is some fine tuned measuring, my friend. Scientology Vs Mormonism. I appreciate you and your eye for detail.
Fakeception.
You're just as sus as anybody else, throw up some citations about your claims.
For my claims in the thread about what terrible cult is the Falon Gong
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong
The first paragraph after the alternative names and transcriptions chart says:
"Led by Li Hongzhi, who is viewed by adherents as a deity-like figure, Falun Gong practitioners operate a variety of organizations in the United States and elsewhere, including the dance troupe Shen Yun.[14][15] They are known for their opposition to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), espousing anti-evolutionary views, opposition to homosexuality and feminism, and rejection of modern medicine, among other views described as "ultra-conservative".[23][24]"
For the quote I cite from David Zhang's video you can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npqb59Z_ol8 At 00:16 seconds
I can't source the claims I have made about Alex Jones because I heard them from the podcast "knowledge fight" around the 70/71 episode and I have no idea how to look for the actual video of Alex saying that
Ok, thank you for the wikipedia links. What's your beef with them, anyways? There are lots of people in the world who share in one or more of Falun Gong's beliefs. What makes "this terrible cult" special? Why, in your opinion, have many members been imprisoned, physically beaten and politically silenced by the Chinese Communist Party?
I have no beef with them, i didn't even knew they existed before today, but any group that is against all of the aforementioned groups (which I personally am a part of a lot of them) is just a terrible group, not differently then many religious or political extremist groups. Also, as it states in the next paragraph of the Wikipedia article they are connected with far right politician and Qanon, which doesn't gat any positive opinions from me.
The reason for why they are persecuted (in my 5 minutes Wikipedia search opinion) is not because they are special in any way, if not that they are kinda popular, it's that (like many other political groups, and not only the more extreme ones) the CCP doesn't like them, also the fact that they are against the CCP itself, as it is stated in the Wikipedia article probably is a huge factor.
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"China fakes everything"
and
"Adam ruins everything"
To which both I ask.......orgasms?
I feel better knowing that Chinese military partners get to feel the joy as well. (Curbs can be a bitch sometimes....)
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Gotta admire the rocket's enthusiasm.
Unintended catastrophic disassembly due to structural failure.
The test stand is only about 5 km away from the city's downtown and less than a kilometer from a smaller village.
No NIMBY in The People's Republic (tm).
None anymore at least
I'm pretty sure it's ridiculously hard to stop government projects in your backyard there. The best you can do is refuse to sell your land.
These projects tend to bring a bunch of economic development along with it. Would be like Floridians rejecting Cape Canaveral or Texans trying to shut down SpaceX. Locals might not be thrilled, but developers and business leaders are ready for the rest of you to take the risk.
Chinese don't own the land, the government is. And even if they own it, local officials can always call in the bulldozers midnight.
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I think we've all been there
Damn that rocket told everyone “fuck you” when it launched and then said “no seriously…fuck you” and then decided to meet its fiery demise.
Uh, I guess that's why many of the more reasonable static test rigs have the rocket flat on the ground with a hill on the pointy side just in case.
Plus some bay or gulf, relatively quiet, very close by the site helps. It's too bad the Chinese don't have any of those.
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That's a different type of test for a different type of rocket.
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Maoist rocket says, "Fuck your imperialist and capitalist clamps" and commits revolutionary suicide.
To paraphrase Scott Manley; they got the rocket science down but need to work on their bolt science
(Fly safe)
That's what happens when you build hardware out of cheese and spit like China is known for. One day it's going to bite you in the ass.
I saw this movie. Did it involve bringing kids to outer space and an AI robot that just wanted to help?
By any chance, were the clamps filled with styrofoam or something? 😁 (Tofu-dreg joke)
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