Getting worse is putting it lightly.
Get the fuck off Google services if you can. Highly recommend Proton mail and drive as a replacement.
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Just signed up after they announced the non-profit and mmigrated all my mail. So far so good.
I wouldn't go from Google to another for-profit though. I know how it ends.
Moved to Protonmail earlier this year, just cancelled my Drive sub and am looking at switching to Mega
can vouch for mega, been using it for 8 years now with no real issues. only sticking point is file download limits with Firefox, and thats just because im too lazy to download the desktop app
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....tell me more of these proton mail services of which you speak!
Been using their paid email, drive and vpn for the last couple of years and their service has been flawless in my experience. Great apps and never had an outage or issues once.
Free versions are available but the paid version is well worth it.
I've been with them for a couple of years too and I use all their services (mail, calendar, drive, VPN, pass and simplelogin) but calling it flawless is a bit of an overstatement.
Their outside communication is nonexistent at best, development speed is unbearably slow and Linux support, the most privacy countious user-base?, is lacking a lot.
Hopefully in the next couple years they sinally manage to release contact sync and a Linux client for Drive.
Their outside communication is nonexistent at best
Eh, they're decently active on Reddit, I guess. They send the occasional newsletter regarding new features if you don't unsubscribe (and they're pretty good at not spamming with those, imo).
development speed is unbearably slow
I see people say this all the time, and while feature updates are kind of slow, I'm also not lacking anything, personally. I would appreciate it if they smoothed-out SimpleLogin's extension, though. That thing is weirdly clunky to use.
Agree on the Linux bit, though. I'm surprised they haven't put more work into that.
Overall, I've been a happy customer for a few years, personally.
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Is it still viable in 2024 to run a home email server? I used to have a personal Postfix box back in the day.
I use a cheap VPS to host my email server. It's a bit easier than running it solely at home, but there's a lot of annoying work to "verify" yourself. Once you get your DNS records good, you shouldn't be blocked after that (unlike a home server). It only costs me $5/month plus the domain, which I think is money well spent. Doing the admin work to make sure I'm secure still needs to happen, but I don't mind that work and find it fun.
You'd have to be really committed. There's more admin work than you think to make sure you're not insecure or getting blocked.
Gmail and other big providers tend to consider new domains to be spam until they've proven otherwise. Can't prove otherwise until you've been up and running for a while. Catch-22. The way out of that is to host with an existing provider for a few years.
Does it cut down on spam? Perhaps. Does it favor existing providers like Gmail? Yes, definitely.
Honestly, hosting email has long been difficult to setup, and all the more so if you don't want your box to be a spam host within three seconds of plugging it in.
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I would need to see some alternates for Google Drive in that case.
Proton drive is fantastic.
I just signed up for that just to check it out and compare it, and it looks like upgrading the storage on it is more expensive than Google Drive.
There's an incredible story behind it. But, the short form is that Proton is more expensive because they're not harvesting your private information. In a few months the law will prevent them from doing for as long as the core fiscal law and Proton exist (at least decades).
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Yeah but that’s expected. It’s difficult to compete as a smaller company compared to what Google can offer.
It’s the price of privacy and to be outside of the google ecosystem.
Apparently, doing a sync with it just on my documents and photos, it ended up filling up the Proton Drive and giving hundreds of errors on one of my Windows 10 computers.
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Google is getting worse everyday and yet we still depends on it everyday
It's ingrained in many places unfortunately. Like aws and Amazon
Microsoft, apple? netflix etc
facebook... shit i bet everyone in this thread hitting 3/5 min
My company's goal seems to be to get themselves more dependent on AWS. They're always talking about which things we can replace with AWS offerings.
I'm the exact opposite. I'm always looking for how to make the things I use more replaceable. That way if a company goes bad, I only need to replace a small part of my stuff.
If AWS goes bad, I'd feel really bad for out devOPs team...
I'm slowly moving away to open source, self-hosted applications where possible. Changed search to a combination of Gibiru and Yep. Email to a mailcow server I host on a vps, and I'm moving photos to an Immich server I'm setting up. Home Automation is next, I have a Raspberry Pi 5 to act as the Home Assistant server. And a few other projects in the works to split from Google as much as I can and mostly it is all better.
Who thinks google will still be a traded company in 10 years?
Too big to fail? Search is only one revenue stream.
Similar tactic among all the large tech corpos, switch focus to IaaS, PaaS, SaaS, become the backbone of the modern computing landscape.
It's basically a slow switch to becoming critical international infrastructure like power grids, water ways, and gas/oil pipelines.
This all while locking you in as much as possible and milking as much value as they can squeeze.
Yahoo is still around in some form or another.
Alphabet has enough money to persist well after they lose relevance.
I mean IBM is still traded but it's a shadow if it's former self
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Is GN going to put Google on a Performance Improvement Plan like they did with Asus?
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"Google is getting worse. Now watch me talk about the situation on a youtube video. Youtube is a property owned by google. "
Where's that iPhone comic about society
This one?
Yeah that's it, thanks
You're so edgy! I'm jelly...
Just took a look at them, and Rumble is for sure a hard pass. The 2 rows under "news" is all far-right extremist videos, which is great if you are aiming for the Parlor/Truth Social/Nazi and Nazi sympathizers of the internet, but I think you'll miss most of the world going that toxic on the frontage.
Thank you for proving my point.
To your point, the amount of money/effort to even try and rival YouTube (and/or Google) would be a hell of a task for sure. Since you would want it to be open, well moderated (but not so much that the majority of people scream "censorship!"), and be able to store/encode/serve a wild amount of video daily. And the later 2 things get exponentially more difficult as you scale.
It would need to be like the Fediverse on steroids, doing a distributed filesystem allowing every federated member to host/encode/serve part of the burden (like Kazaa/Limewire/DC++) but in some manner that people could be assured node hosts couldn't tamper with videos. And then you would also need some sort of reward for creators that wouldn't somehow lead to greedy power struggles causing an implosion of your open platform.
Ah, to dream.
Okay. My point is we have Youtube alternatives. But people don't use them. Because they can't filter out the stuff they don’t like.
In their current state, I would argue none of them are actually alternatives in the sense of being a real replacement. None of them is setup to scale, making the moderation/filtering point kinda moot.
There's also PeerTube, the Fediverse counterpart to YouTube. Unfortunately, while there's some good stuff you can find (and some re-uploads of YouTube), there's just not as much content. I'd imagine the userbase is pretty small, too.
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You the stones to destroy the stones.
I get what you're saying, but they use the platform to spread the word quicker and reach a bigger audience.
You know who is most fed up with YouTube's policies? Content creators on YouTube. They're locked in, they know it, and they hate it.
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It's not even that their results suck, per se, but they straight up ignore most of my search query and focus on one or two words only. Obviously that makes your search results suck.
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You either die a hero or live and watch yourself turn into a villian.
Tom's hardware, woot, and most recently donut media just to name a few. All were once the place to go, they all were bought out by bigger interest and eventually became the villian.
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