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Some reflections on the cost of shaving soap. (self.wetshaving)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by walden to c/wetshaving

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To start, it goes without saying that this shaving hobby is typically not a money-saver, even if it's pushed as such by enthusiasts trying to convert people to this style of shaving. Looking at the price of shaving soap using price per oz. is fairly common (I still do that sort of thing even when I'm in the grocery store), but die-hard hobbyists tend to scoff at it, because, well, you sometimes get what you pay for.

With that being said, there are people all over the world with varying budgets, and like any hobby you can spend as little or as much as you want. From Col. Conk to Sebum Gold, there's a wide spectrum of cost for shaving soap.

In this recent video from Stirling Soap Company, Rod talks about how tubs are the most cost effective form factor. Samples and even Refill Pucks are more labor intensive, making them more expensive per oz. You might assume, as I did, that a refill puck would be cheaper per oz. because it doesn't come with a plastic jar, but you would be wrong.

But wait! Take a look at Barrister & Mann. They recently lowered the cost of their samples to $3.99USD, and their samples are a full 1 oz., just like Stirling. That makes them $0.11USD cheaper than Stirling samples.

Now lets do some math.

5.8 Stirling samples to make one of their shaving soap jars: $4.10*5.8 = $23.78, a lot more expensive than just buying a jar for $14.24USD.

4 B&M samples to make one of their shaving soap jars: $3.99*4 = $15.96, a whopping $9 cheaper than buying a tub for $24.99!

Does a tub, label, etc. cost $9 extra? Are the samples a loss leader like rotisserie chicken and hot dogs?

Either way, it's great to have both of those companies offering generous samples. House of Mammoth also has relatively large samples, but they're 1/2oz for $6.00USD.

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[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I usually buy the tubs from Barrister and Mann, I find their shaving soaps to be of a significantly higher quality than Sterling, but I never considered getting a buncha samples instead... I wonder if I could reheat them and use them in a tub? I have a small shaving mug for soaps I used before getting stuff from B&M, but I usually just put my brush directly into the plastic tubs.

Also, are you sure the B&M samples are equal to one forth of a tub? That doesn't sound right. The samples are small lil pucks, I think the tub may contain far more than 4.

[–] djundjila 5 points 5 months ago

The samples are small lil pucks,

Maybe you're referring to the Maggard samples? BaM used not to sell samples but instead link to Maggard where they manually scoop little sample tubs of about 8 grams.

For a few months now, BaM carry samples themselves and they come in a paper-wrapped square block of 1 oz or about 4 Maggard sample tubs.

[–] walden 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No need to heat them, in fact in the same video from Stirling that I posted above he talks about that. These soaps are so soft all you have to do is squish them into whatever container you want.

I recently got a B&M sample and squished it into an empty shaving soap tub - the same style that B&M uses. Wide and shallow, you know the type. The samples are indeed big. There's always a little bit of variance, though. Maybe each sample you get will be 0.9oz, and if you buy a full tub you might get 4.3oz. Ignoring that, the samples are still a good deal!

[–] DaveWave94 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

As a wetshaver from the EU, I can give another view regarding samples: You can consider yourself lucky that in this hobby, where most top-notch artisans are US-based, they often offer samples. Over here in Europe, almost every soap tub is a blind buy, just judging by scent notes and other wetshavers' reviews - unless it's a european artisan like E&S Rasage, who offer nice little samples of their soaps and aftershaves. But unfortunately, "try before you buy" is simply not happening over here in most instances. If you want to buy samples, a british or american vendor is your best choice and even then you might end up paying a lot more than you hoped for thanks to duty fees.

Perfume or the fragrance community in general is comparable to our hobby, but there you have the luxury of trying out scents in brick and mortar stores or getting 2 ml sample spray bottles. A lot of scents are just expensive for the luxury factor and the brand name, others are more fairly priced but it's still "you get what you pay for". I don't expect extreme longevity from a 20€ perfume, but one for 150€ should better have some staying power to justify that price tag. I think a lot of this goes for every hobby: well established brand names can charge more than newcomers, popular brands often cater to a more mainstream audience, there are some "hidden gems" here and there and also some things were the hype was simply unjustified.

But overall, I sincerely agree with your take that this hobby won't save any money. Sure, if you do it like my grandpa's generation and just always use the same soap until it's empty, just own one razor where you only need to replace the blades and use only one brush until the bristles fall apart - then it's a money saver. But despite our best efforts to comfort ourselves with that "traditional" wetshaving will save so much money, it won't when you get seriously crazy into this hobby. I openly admit that one year I spent close to 700€ in soaps, aftershaves and razors and it's something I'm definitely not proud of...

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't call wet shaving with a DE a hobby, but I'm pretty sure it's saving me money compared to buying mach 3 blades and cans of shaving foam.

But I do it your grandpa's way though. I shave my head 2 or 3 times a week. I have one DE shaver. I use the same soap, bowl and brush every time. A blade lasts me 2 or 3 shaves.

I get good results and it feels good. I only spend on shaving supplies maybe twice a year because I bulk buy blades and soap.

[–] DaveWave94 4 points 5 months ago

Yep, this old school way definitely saves money compared to the modern cartridge razors and their exorbitant prices. 1 razor, 1 soap, 1 brush plus a reliable aftershave option and a few blades. You're set.

I personally got into the hobby side of it way too fast, but still - it's fun and that's what matters to me.

[–] walden 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

700 currencies is a hefty sum, but I compare it to other hobbies and all of a sudden it's a bargain. A single styrofoam RC Airplane costs about $2-400USD. Buy a couple of those plus a $400 transmitter, some batteries, and a charger... It adds up but it's fun.

[–] DaveWave94 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, wetshaving is definitely not the most expensive hobby. The "entry fee" (so to say) isn't that high compared to others - Photography is very expensive to get into, for example. Golf is a sport for rich people and you realise why when you see the prizes for the equipment and memberships. A lot of hobbies are, simply put, a luxury. You get what you pay for and quality has its price. But that one spending spree was kinda a wake up call for me - never did I want to go so crazy again, most of all since a lot of stuff was just for LG and I didn't even really enjoy it.

[–] djundjila 3 points 5 months ago

Very nice comparison, and good observation about the price mismatch with BaM