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If you believe what Janeway did to Tuvix was wrong, does Spock get a pass? (startrek.website)

submitted 1 year ago by GuyFleegman@startrek.website to c/daystrominstitute@startrek.website

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I want to live!

- EvilKirk's last words

Whatever else you want to say about EvilKirk, it's pretty clear that he didn't want to be merged back into the single Kirk. Despite this, there is no shortage of reasons why it was a good idea to merge the Kirks: the Enterprise needed its CO back, GoodKirk wanted to do it, and it seems possible that the strain of remaining split would have eventually killed EvilKirk anyways. However, the fact remains that EvilKirk did not consent to the procedure which ended his existence.

Clearly the circumstances here are quite different and there's basically no argument to be made that allowing EvilKirk to continue to exist would benefit any involved party, EvilKirk included. But for the purposes of this comparison, the only fact that really matters is that EvilKirk was just as passionate about his desire to continue existing as Tuvix was.

Yet—and it's obvious where I'm going with this—"Spock murdered EvilKirk" is not a meme.

So what gives? Did Spock murder EvilKirk or not? If yes, why does he get a pass while Janeway is condemned?

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[–] japps13@lemmy.physfluids.fr 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because he didn’t kill anyone, not any more than a baby whose mother died in childbirth.

[–] BobKerman3999@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the wrong comparison: you can't in any way get back the mother. Tuvix wasn't just an error of the transporter like Will/Tom Riker, it was a monster built from harvesting the organs of two living being AND it was possible to get them back if you destroy it. Easiest moral choice ever

[–] vegivamp@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

All of that doesn't change the fact that Tuvix did not kill anyone. You initial premise is flawed.