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Can Apps Share Data Back n Forth on GrapheneOS? (lemm.ee)
submitted 9 months ago by MagneticFusion@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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Say I have Google Camera installed with network permissions revoked. Say I also install Play Services which does have network access. Would Google Camera be able to share data about my pictures to Play Services which would then phone home to Google?

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[โ€“] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There's gos' camera already preinstalled, no need to download anything ๐Ÿซฃ

They discourage fdroid because it's not very secure, until it ever gets better

There's the secure Accrescent, but it has almost no apps in it

(Yeah, but actually you can just use obtainium, this is probably the future)

[โ€“] VolunTerry@monero.town 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

I'd like to see some evidence that F-Droid is less secure (or privacy respecting) than using the big Gs playstore or services, which many, if not most, playstore apps depend on to function.

I mean this sincerely and respectfully. I'd love to look onto it.

Because in my current opinion and approach, if you vet your apps and practice good digital hygiene, then FOSS>GOOGL/Alphabet for nearly everything from a privacy and security perspective.

Edit: if I misunderstood and you were saying don't use G playstore or Aurora AND don't use F-Droid, then may I ask where are you getting your apps, other than directly from the devs page or github and so on?

[โ€“] techognito@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There is an app called Obtainium. This allows downloading signed apps directly from source

[โ€“] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For that to work you need to know the app exists first. I also like to look at F-droids anti feature list.

[โ€“] VolunTerry@monero.town 2 points 9 months ago

Me too, but good to know I can check that at F-Droid and then fetch from source if I want. Best of both.

[โ€“] driveway@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

All apps on Fdroid are built and signed by Fdroid devs which gives them infinite power. If you trust them completely, go ahead and use it.

[โ€“] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm a little bit too late ๐Ÿคช

I personally don't use anything of google, browsing and trying apps from fdroid, and have obtainium for the ones I usually use

But Graphene's approach is all about security, and privacy only after it So they recommend the most secure options first, and don't recommend minor options So, their current opinion on fdroid that it's less secure than googlag's store, so a more secure option would be googlag, or that second store that has 3 apps in it

But it's for "marketplace" apps, so obtainium not in the scope, but kinda should be (we just need to rethink where we get our apps from)

[โ€“] VolunTerry@monero.town 1 points 9 months ago

Good points and makes sense to me. Thanks.