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The steam deck is how you prevent piracy. If you look at the huge influx of streaming services, you'll see an example of how you encourage piracy. I recently dropped three of my services in favor of one pirate site that has almost everything. They even offer a subscription tier and I've considered it. I'm willing to pay for good content. What I'm not willing to do is pay dozens of middlemen across multiple companies to rip off the people who actually make my favorite shows and then memory hole the shows a few months after they premiere.
Recently got a switch. Digital games are same price as physical, locked to my account/switch and saves don't move easily between devices. Steam deck, I can play on any hardware that can support it TV, PC laptop games cloud save for free. I can play online games for free. I know that games I buy today will be available in 10 years on my next PC. I only buy carts for the switch cause they give me more flexibility still not even the same as steam.
I very rarely backup game saves but only the thought of being locked to a console puts me off. I can't possibly invest 100+ hours in a Pokemon game and lose everything of the battery dies, screen breaks, console is forgotten on a bus or stolen, and so on.
Switch save files can be saved in the cloud, but the game devs have to enable it. You can also save them to an SD card.
Saved in the cloud if youre a NSO subscriber* Aint paying for the sub? Tough luck kid.
Ah, I didn't research that far into it, so good point. Although I can see the reasoning behind it from a business standpoint.
Except for Pokémon games which are saved directly to the internal storage and unable to be moved unless you have the original save device (and it’s working) as well as the new device and transfer the save manually.
Splatoon is the same. Saves are locked to the system, even with NSO.
Animal crossing was the same until people raised hell about it.
My point was that it's on the devs, not Nintendo. The functionality exists, devs just need to implement it.
The same was true for Steam as well, once upon a time.
the comment you replied to:
it is nintendo’s choice disable cloud saves on pokémon. splatoon and animal crossing are both made by studios under nintendo’s umbrella, and nintendo already showed they can exert that pressure if they need to with animal crossing.
saying “it’s up to the devs, not nintendo” neither answers the complaint you replied to nor has any semantic relevance to the titles above. moreover, SD cards cannot be used for these titles.
No, it's not Nintendo's choice. That's like saying it's Nvidia's choice when a game doesn't implement hardware accelerated ray tracing.
it’s not at all like that, and i’m not sure where you’re missing the boat.
nintendo has ownership stake in the developers of all the titles we’re talking about. it would be like if valve turned off cloud saves on left 4 dead 1. you’d come in to comment how it’s turtle rock’s fault that valve turned off a feature that was implemented by valve on a platform owned by valve for a game published and developed by valve.
in this analogy you’re also playing on the steam deck, so the hardware is also built by valve.
You’re just describing pc gaming though, not specifically steam deck gaming.
sick turn of phrase, i'm stealing that
Please read 1984. That's where this term comes from. You're living through a combination of it and Brave New World.
But in this universe, people willingly pay money for Big Brother to watch them.
No, they pay money for Younger Brother, the capitalist version of Big Brother to watch them. Big Bro is always watching regardless.
I think it's more like Big Cousin instead of little brother, since the corpos run things.
Amazon TVs seem like they used 1984 as a reference.
But yeah somewhere between 1984 and BNW sounds right. The government and the megacorporations are not opposed but in fact the very same party. Instead of mood-numbing or happy drugs, it's sugar and antidepressants. Instead of government watching you it's corporations selling every part of your identity down to your menstruation cycle. You are kept in line with debt rather than force, which is honestly worse because you put the shackles on yourself, and you do it because the alternative is worse.
Your own special hell.
at least we get bumblepuppies and soma (tiktok and marijuana)
With respect to social media, I think Fahrenheit 451 might have nailed that best. Everyone involved in a neverending orgy of ego and drama over dumb shit, most of which isn't real anyway.
Did anyone predict the agrostophobia?
It's not the amount of services that's the problem, the competition is aleays a good thing. It's exclusives that are the problem. Almost noone is complaining about origin and uplay even thouhh it's games are available via a launcher launching yet another launcher. But epic? Everyone hates epic precisely because of their exclusive deals taking content off of other platforms. And for streaming, I guess if some of the players worked out some deal to get their hands on exclusives from other platforms, people would stop complaining about it, even if they jack up the prices to ultimately end up with the same amount of revenue.
The steam deck does nothing to prevent piracy though? It’s just a portable pc. Nothing about it is making pc gaming any more enticing to make people stop pirating.