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[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I believe it’s become much more apparent to people including law makers that we can afford to live without these companies. So many startups for electric cars these days could take over those plants and offer better pay (hopefully). We should’ve moved past these shit companies as a world back when that bailout happened, maybe we learned our lesson and can do it this time.

[–] ButtDrugs@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately I don't think any of the new electric car manufacturers are unionized. So a lot of these people would lose union gigs and end up with less pay/benefits at a non-union shop. Sire they could unionized again but that's it's own battle just to get back to where they started.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

New companies don't usually treat their people shitty while starting up. Otherwise they'd never make it in the first place. I think it's later down the road when the greed kicks in and workers start getting screwed. So at least for a few years it should be win/win even without a union.

[–] Magrath@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not true. Start ups tend to take advantage of people's hopes and dream of working for a start up. Not sure what the big deal is with start ups. Here's the first article I found from a quick google search https://sifted.eu/articles/mental-health-workplace

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A data set of 133 europeans isn't much to base anything on. I do believe there are plenty of startups that are shitty to work for due to the reasons outlined in the article. How many are like that is hard to say.

[–] Magrath@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A data set of 133 is better than your data set of 0.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

I'm not the one making blanket statements.