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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/2728889

From the article:

Since Tailscale was founded in 2019, customers have been forced to choose between either Tailscale or Mullvad without the ability for them to co-exist.
Today we announce a partnership with Tailscale that allows you to use both in conjunction through the Tailscale app. This functionality is not available through the Mullvad VPN app. This partnership allows customers of Tailscale to make use of our WireGuard VPN servers as “exit nodes”. This means that whilst connected to Tailscale, you can access your devices across Tailscale’s mesh network, whilst still connecting outbound through Mullvad VPN WireGuard servers in any location.

Announcement also on Tailscale blog.

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[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have the utmost respect and appreciation for mullvad but I don't need a vpn without port forwarding so I cancelled my sub. They are still objectively the vest vpn, this is the only sticking point.

[–] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What does port forwarding gain you on a VPN? Sorry if the question is ignorant

[–] dan@upvote.au 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You need it for file sharing apps like BitTorrent or Soulseek, if you don't want to be seen as a leech, and/or you want to use private trackers where you need to maintain a good ratio. :)

From what I've read you need it for Bittorrent or at least the chance of failed downloads is higher without it.

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Another use case (in addition to the BitTorrent use case) is if you want to host a site but hide your IP. You can run Nginx and configure it to listen on a port the VPN service has allocated to you. Good VPN services like AirVPN let you choose ports, and those ports are always allocated to you.

[–] reddithalation@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

although people hosting illegal content using port forwarding is likely one of the reasons they removed it, so its a tricky problem

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

One of the main reasons people use VPNs is for illegal content... Port forwarding doesn't change that.

[–] reddithalation@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

sure illegal content can be accessed over a vpn without port forwarding, but when someone is hosting a child porn site over a mullvad ip, that is clearly a larger problem

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I assume the kind of people that runs a VPN doesn't mind copyright infringement that much, but any sane person wouldn't like to contribute to the distribution of CSAM even if they are legally not doing anything wrong.

[–] akrot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's one of the main issues that criminals are more likely tonvalue privacy (for survival) than the average user that considers it a plus. And by criminal it can stretch from benign stuff like copyright infringement to being a hitman.

[–] Salix@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, unfortunately because of this decision from Mullvad, they also lost me as customer and I had to move to another.

It kinda sucks because I loved Mullvad. They had great servers, customer service, and I do like their Android & Linux program.

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did they change something? I've been port forwarding for a couple of years now.

[–] sinatosk@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Well. That's what I get for using a service without giving them my email and not checking their blog.