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I find it weird that I support Bernie wholeheartedly, even though I am a Trump supporter (yeah, I can hear them coming)
How. The. Fuck. Is. That. Even. Possible.
You're the Clayton Bixby of politics.
Because they're both populist, if you don't care about the policy it's easy to like both trump (pre elected, if you still support him after, you're either willfully ignorant or brainwashed) or Bernie
Even though he is a socialist (which I hate) I believe he genuinely cares about the issues he says he cares about, unlike almost everyone in politics right now, Bernie is honest. Donald Trump, well he gets shit done and is politically incorrect, he has the courage to say things that many politicians don't have the courage of addressing (a similarity between both Bernie and Trump). And Bernie has not changed that much on terms of his policies, he supported gay men and women when it was unpopular (I loved this big time!), he says what he thinks about the Saudis and no one,not even trump has the courage to do this, he is a brave man in the truest sense. I love Bernie more than Trump for that reason. But yeah, both are populists, both are unlike anyone who I have ever seen, I really wish Bernie was president for at least one term, Hillary B Clinton and the Dems cheated him out of his rightful ticket. So fuck Hillary and fuck the democratic party establishment, also fuck Joe Biden too while we are at it. For someone who make a big deal out of the Jan 6 disturbance, Dems are perfectly capable of and are willing to steal elections and throw the will of the people into the dustbin.
To not make a big deal about J6 is absolutely delusional and completely a spit in the face of the democracy of the U.S. Nothing you say has an value.
Itβs not unusual. The joke is the political spectrum is a circle. You go far enough to the left - you meet the far right.
In the end both Bernie and Trump are populists (in both senses: offering solutions that people want and proposing simplified solutions that are unrealistic)
During Covid in Germany the anti vaccine protest coalition was made up of fascists and hippies.
Please educate me. What populist opinion does Bernie hold that is unrealistic? Is it Single Payer? Is it taxing oligarchs? Is it not being corrupt?
Most of his platform would be center-left or even just centrist in Scandinavia.
It's because you're a populist. They're both populist politicians. Trump is right-wing, Bernie is left-wing.
Though, the question of whether either (especially trump) actually believe in their populist positions is debatable.