this post was submitted on 23 Feb 2025
43 points (89.1% liked)

Selfhosted

42765 readers
1288 users here now

A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don't control.

Rules:

  1. Be civil: we're here to support and learn from one another. Insults won't be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.

  2. No spam posting.

  3. Posts have to be centered around self-hosting. There are other communities for discussing hardware or home computing. If it's not obvious why your post topic revolves around selfhosting, please include details to make it clear.

  4. Don't duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.

  5. Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).

  6. No trolling.

Resources:

Any issues on the community? Report it using the report flag.

Questions? DM the mods!

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I set it to debug at somepoint and forgot maybe? Idk, but why the heck does the default config of the official Docker is to keep all logs, forever, in a single file woth no rotation?

Feels like 101 of log files. Anyway, this explains why my storage recipt grew slowly but unexpectedly.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 19 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

You should always setup logrotate. Yes the good old Linux logrotate...

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't disagree that logrotate is a sensible answer here, but making that the responsibility of the user is silly.

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu -4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Are you crazy? I understand that we are used to dumbed down stuff, but come on...

Rotating logs is in the ABC of any sysadmin, even before backups.

First, secure your ssh logins, then secure your logs, then your fail2ban then your backups...

To me, that's in the basic stuff you must always ensure.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 minutes ago

Logration is the abc of the developer.
Why should I need 3rd party tools to fix the work of the developer??

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Those should also all be secure by default. What is this, Windows?

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 2 points 3 hours ago

Just basic checks I prefer to ensure, not leave to distribution good faith. If all is set, good to go. Otherwise, fix and move on.

Specially with self hosted stuff that is a bit more custom than the usual.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 24 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

We should each not have to configure log rotation for every individual service. That would require identify what and how it logs data in the first place, then implementing a logrotate config. Services should include a reasonable default in logrotate.d as part of their install package.

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed, but going container route those nice basic practices are dead.

And also, being mextcloud a php service, of can't by definition ship with a logrotate config too, because its never packaged by your repo.

[–] peregus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

The fact (IMHO) is that the logs shouldn't be there, in a persistent volume.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Ideally yes, but I've had to do this regularly for many services developed both in-house and out of house.

Solve problems, and maybe share your work if you like, I think we all appreciate it.