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[–] davehtaylor@beehaw.org 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Any job that can be WFH should be WFH.

Any job that can't be WFH that requires sitting at a desk all day should give each person an individual office. The open office plan has been an absolute nightmare, and only benefits micromanagers. It's a productivity disaster, and makes for a miserable experience, and only exists for the sake of surveillance. However, I doubt there are many jobs that can't be WFH that require such a situation.

The real issue here is an intentional mis-framing, imo. Why must people get back to a traditional office setting? The only people who want this are employers who think that Butts In Seats = Productivity, and the only way to ensure it is to intensely surveil your employees. I also don't give two shits if some real estate company goes bankrupt because business tenants stop renting their properties. Boo fucking hoo.

I've been working for a remote-first company now for over a year, and I won't ever got back to working in an office. There is literally nothing about what I do that needs me to be physically present in any specific place. The problem isn't "productivity" or "collaboration", the problem is entirely based around a work culture that is fundamentally punitive, puritanical, and antithetical to life balance.

[–] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm very much WFH a huge percentage of the time. I don't think I'm ever going to willingly go back daily or even weekly. There's little to no point. Our society also should want to encourage WFH as much as possible just for environmental benefits.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There’s a lot of psychological benefits to having much smaller communities. It’s been shown that after about 150 people, we tend to not do so well. Seems like the technology is there. The psychology is sound. And our mental health is critical.

The intent and WFH could mean we all live better. Nicer places. Less commuting. Everyone just, happier.

Sooooo….. 💁‍♂️

Ehhh. I wouldn't say the only people who want an office setting are managers. There are definitely some bonuses to going in to work for some people - a very "to each their own" situation.

But I think the distinction there becomes the "traditional" office setting, because, yeah, no one likes that corporate bull.