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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Why do I care? Why it need to be so fast?

What is everyone doing with their internet that I'm apparently missing out on?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Decades ago....

"Why do I need electricity? I have candles. Lights seem excessive."

Yes, but once most people have electricity, new products will be designed to take advantage of it. Now you can have a washing machine, for example.

Broadband is the same. Once most of your population has high bandwidth, we can start to design things that will use it. Right now we're still designing for DSL speeds.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

That's entirely speculative. There are diminishing returns. Unless you're going to host your own YouTube, the use case for 50Gbps connections to the home is quite small. 4K video streaming at Ultra HD Blu-ray bitrates doesn't even come close to saturating 1Gbps, and all streaming services compress 4K video significantly more than what Ultra HD Blu-ray offers. The server side is the limit, not home connections.

Now, if you want to talk about self-hosting stuff and returning the Internet to a more peer-to-peer architecture, then you need IPv6. Having any kind of NAT in the way is not going to work. Connection speed still isn't that important.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 23 minutes ago

there could be some new thing that no one has not even bothered to think about because of the limitations. Imagine streaming back when downloading few kilobytes for an hours was considered reasonable, people would have laughed at the very thought of it.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Unless you're going to host your own YouTube....

This is exactly what peer tube is struggling with. This bandwidth would solve the video federation problem.

See, you get it!

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Except we need IPv6 before that's at all viable.

We are not even filling out the bandwidth of pipes we have to the home right now. "If you build it, they will come" does not apply when there's already something there that isn't being fully utilized.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh, maybe. I'm not familiar with bandwidth utilization in China.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

How exactly does NAT prevent that? On good hardware it adds insignificant latency.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

It has nothing to do with latency, and everything to do with not being able to directly address things behind NAT.

Edit: and please, nobody argue that NAT increases security. That dumbass argument should have died the moment it was first uttered.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but have you considered China bad?

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

China morally bankrupt and developing at a staggering pace which has somewhat stymied as their scoffing at regulations in favor of backroom dealings is kneecapping themselves.

So if you zoom in close enough, like looking at this amazingly fast reported internet speed and only at this speed, China "good."

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Notice how many extra hoops you jumped through to get here

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

To arrive at "China Good," yes you do need to jump through many hoops. Glad we're on the same page, even if you started out strangely.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Lmao the irony

You have serious ego issues that you will need self reflection to fix.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 hour ago

Feel free to elaborate. I have no idea what you're talking about other than it seems like tankie screeching to me.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

And then he blocked me XD

All these egotistical children with nothing to be proud of

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 hour ago

Who blocked you?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So I'm just going to be a completely different person once I have access to these speeds or you are suggesting new tech that will be made available to consumers?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

The second one.

Think back to when you were on dial-up. The concept of a streaming movie service would have been a fantasyland. No one was creating one. The infrastructure wasn't there. It was impossible.

As soon as people started getting broadband, and enough people got it, streaming services could exist.

Are you different? No, you just want to watch a movie. But now you don't have to go to Blockbuster.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

360 VR experience with 16K resolution, highly textured touchable surfaces, and smell-o-vision. Only a $40 Meta subscription with ads.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 minutes ago

. Only a $40 Meta subscriptio

I tried to upload some 8k 360 footage to FB before I left it "We're sorry, but an error has occurred"

Tried over several days, no good. tried again a month later, still no good.

Camera is more or less useless if you can't host the footage anyway :/

[–] realharo@lemm.ee 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Latency is much more critical than bandwidth for any sort of real-time VR.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

We'll solve that with AI. Because you can solve anything by saying "AI".

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

What about quantum computing? I don't want anything without quantum computing.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Quantum computing with AI

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 6 hours ago

That goes without saying.

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

It's not fast it's more of more bandwidth, means more people can be connected from one line. Speed will remain the same.