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Yesterday I was reading the post about the FUTO keyboard where there were a lot of messages deleted by moderators.
I've commented there

What the heck happened with all the messages deleted by moderator?

And it got deleted. Right now you can only see 4, but I've counted 19 messages moderated and the post has been locked. Why?
I've had a look ad the modlog and the messages don't seems to violate any policy (now they've removed them in the modlog too).

I'm pinging here lemmy.ml admin and the mods of the open source community where the post was posted so they can have their say about it and clarify the situation to me.
@kevincox@lemmy.ml @CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml @Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml @Cloak@lemmy.ml @davel@lemmy.ml @dessalines@lemmy.ml @nutomic@lemmy.ml @JoeBidet@lemmy.ml @cypherpunks@lemmy.ml

If I'm getting something wrong, please let me know, I'm here to discus and understand if I'm getting something wrong or if something went wrong in the moderation. Thanks!

Down here you can see the deleted comments.

P.s. I'm writing here because I think that this post on lemmy.ml wouldn't last long.

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[–] peregus@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Every time Futo comes up, someone will insist it is open source, others will correct them, and soon more than 50% of a thread that is supposed to be about open source is people arguing about them.

In the removed posts that you can see in the screenshots I don't see anything you say.

Probably more than that even; more than I want to count. The modlog is public.

When I wrote the post, there were no trace of those messages in the modlog (or I've missed them, I'm not that into Lemmy, I admit that)

The What’s the best open source keyboard for android? post where you commented has not been locked

My bad, I must have confused them, sorry.

I generally try to assume good faith but I’m pretty sure some Futo proponents are actually just trolling at this point.

As stated above, I don't see any trolling in the comments scrreenshotted (and deleted). But over that, I think that deleting those messages is censorship. I still believe in free speech and I can't see any hate or misinformation in those messages.

Note that while your comment was not advocating for futo per se, it was (successfully) encouraging others to continue the offtopic discussion. You could have answered your question by reading the modlog.

It was a chit chat, what's wrong with that? It feels like school were you had to just pay attention to what the professor was saying and woe betide anyone who turns their head.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 minutes ago

But over that, I think that deleting those messages is censorship. I still believe in free speech and I can’t see any hate or misinformation in those messages.

I believe in free speech too, and I think moderated spaces for discussion help enable it. (Think about this...)

Nobody claimed there was hate in any of messages in that thread; you observing that there wasn't is knocking down a straw man, and using the word censorship here is just hyperbole.

There are however unambiguously factually incorrect assertions in some of the offtopic messages I removed from that thread.