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Prioritizing de-clouding efforts (slrpnk.net)

submitted 21 hours ago by meyotch@slrpnk.net to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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I am finally making the push to self host everything I possibly can and leave as many cloud services as I can.

I have years of linux server admin experience so this is not a technical post, more of an attempt to get some crowd wisdom on a complex migration.

I have a plan and have identified services i would like to implement. Take it as given that the hardware I have can handle all this. But it is a lot so it won’t happen at once.

I would appreciate thoughts about the order in which to implement services. Install is only phase one, migration of existing data and shaking everything down to test stability is also time consuming. So any insights, especially on services that might present extra challenges when I start to add my own data, or dependencies I haven’t thought of.

The list order is not significant yet, but I would like to have an incremental plan. Those marked with * are already running and hosting my data locally with no issues.

Thanks in advance.

Base system

Proxmox VE 8.3
- ZFS for a time-machine like backup to a local hdd
- Docker VM with containers
  - Home Assistant *
  - Esphome *
  - Paperless-ngx *
  - Photo Prism
  - Firefly III
  - Jellyfin
  - Gitea
  - Authelia
  - Vaultwarden
  - Radicale
  - Prometheus
  - Grafana

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[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I would recommend running Home Assistant OS in a VM instead of using the docker container.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 1 points 12 hours ago

Thanks, a solid suggestion.

I have explored that direction and would 100% agree for most home setups. I specifically need HA running in an unsupervised environment, so Add-ons are not on the table anyway. The containerized version works well for me so far and it's consistent with my overall services scheme. I am developing an integration and there's a whole other story to my setup that includes different networks and test servers for customer simulations using fresh installs of HASS OS and the like.

[–] mcchots@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Why is that?

[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 4 points 15 hours ago

Everything @CondorWonder@lemmy.ca said and because backups to Home Assistant OS also include addons, which is just very convenient.

My Proxmox setup has 3 VMs:

Home Assistant OS with all the add-ons (containers) specific to Home Assistant
TrueNAS with an HBA card using PCIe passthrough
VM for all other services

Also, if you ever plan to switch from a virtualized environment to bare metal servers, this layout makes switching over dead easy.

[–] CondorWonder@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago

You get easy access to their addons with a VM (aka HAOS). You can do the same thing yourself but you have to do it all (creating the containers, configuring them, figuring out how to connect them to HA/your network/etc., updating them as needed) - whereas with HAOS it generally just works. If you want that control great but go in with that understanding.