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"Behold, a Linux maintainer openly admitting to attempting to sabotage the entire Rust for Linux project". Thoughts on this post from Marcan? (social.treehouse.systems)

submitted 1 day ago by TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Behold, a Linux maintainer openly admitting to attempting to sabotage the entire Rust for Linux project:

https://lwn.net/ml/all/20250131075751.GA16720@lst.de/

The good news is this doesn't affect drm/asahi, our GPU driver. The bad news is it does affect all the other drivers we're (re)writing in Rust, two so far with a third one coming.

Another choice quote, calling R4L "cancer": https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250128092334.GA28548@lst.de/

Personally, I would consider this grounds for removal of Christoph from the Linux project on Code of Conduct violation grounds, but sadly I doubt much will happen other than draining a lot of people's energy and will to continue the project until Linus says "fuck you" or something.

As for how to move forward, if I were one of the Rust maintainers, I would just merge the patch (which does not touch code formally maintained by the dissenter). Either Linus takes the pull, and whatever Christoph says is irrelevant, or he doesn't, and R4L dies. Everything else is a waste of everyone's time and energy.

Edit: Sent in my 2 cents: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/2b9b75d1-eb8e-494a-b05f-59f75c92e6ae@marcan.st/T/#m1944b6d485070970e359bbc7baa71b04c86a30af

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[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Christoph is an engineer and has been for a long time. There are probably considerations he is making that you either cannot or are refusing to fathom. He's clearly not against rust in general, just in mixing languages in one codebase.

To be clear though, I personally don't have a horse in this race, I am speaking somewhat as an outside observer, so i gain nothing from you getting your way or Christoph his.

Stop and think without attributing malice to why someone in his position would make the statements and decisions he's making. He's not an idiot.

[–] apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

We should be looking at his given reasons, not making assumptions based on some ineffable set of considerations that he might have.

Christof's given reason of complexity is sensible, it's also one already considered when allowing R4L in the first place; adding rust language support has been deemed worth the additional complexity.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Deemed by who though?

[–] apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

Either Linus or Greg K-H, likely after feedback from many others.