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"Behold, a Linux maintainer openly admitting to attempting to sabotage the entire Rust for Linux project". Thoughts on this post from Marcan? (social.treehouse.systems)

submitted 1 day ago by TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Behold, a Linux maintainer openly admitting to attempting to sabotage the entire Rust for Linux project:

https://lwn.net/ml/all/20250131075751.GA16720@lst.de/

The good news is this doesn't affect drm/asahi, our GPU driver. The bad news is it does affect all the other drivers we're (re)writing in Rust, two so far with a third one coming.

Another choice quote, calling R4L "cancer": https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250128092334.GA28548@lst.de/

Personally, I would consider this grounds for removal of Christoph from the Linux project on Code of Conduct violation grounds, but sadly I doubt much will happen other than draining a lot of people's energy and will to continue the project until Linus says "fuck you" or something.

As for how to move forward, if I were one of the Rust maintainers, I would just merge the patch (which does not touch code formally maintained by the dissenter). Either Linus takes the pull, and whatever Christoph says is irrelevant, or he doesn't, and R4L dies. Everything else is a waste of everyone's time and energy.

Edit: Sent in my 2 cents: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/2b9b75d1-eb8e-494a-b05f-59f75c92e6ae@marcan.st/T/#m1944b6d485070970e359bbc7baa71b04c86a30af

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Phrasing.

A Linux maintainer wants to keep quality high. Objects to adding complexity to codebase.

Right or wrong, we want the maintainers focused on quality and maintainability.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is rust more maintainable than C?

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you’re a C developer who doesn’t know Rust, no.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well this code would be maintained by developers who know rust, so it sounds like a good merge to me!

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Does the rust code not depend on any C code?

It's not so simple to say "it's separate" if there are still dependencies and if the rust code can be broken by C changes.

I'm not defending either position.