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How would you answer this, and how would you expect Chinese netizens on Xiaohongshu to answer?

I will link to the thread in the comments because I want you to take a moment and think about it first.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gotcha, depicting chinese people as yellow is funny to you.

[–] yuri@pawb.social 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

yeah it’s censored because of racism, that’s an amazingly insightful and smart take! you sure showed that dirty racist what-for, i bet they’ll think twice before posting a picture of a cartoon next time. you’re a really good spokesperson for your political beliefs, and you DEFINITELY aren’t coming across like a child right now!

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)


The Tiger character is called Tigger

Totally not racist?
Btw, what does Tigger rhyme with, my fellow Ningen?

Banning racist memes is not a big issue.

Censorship of memes is not fun, but considering how they lifted millions of their people out of poverty very quickly, a ban on a racist meme is ok.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t buy it. The Chinese people have been using this meme.

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

But the commentors above said that the Chinese govt is censoring Winnie the Pooh. This image has Pooh and also another character from the same series.

So the commentor is wrong and there is no active censorship?
Or they're partly correct where only some Pooh gets actively censored?

Conflicting info now

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m sorry, but you’ve been arguing with me! I already shared the wiki. As far as I know it’s not racism, it’s exuberant Chinese censorship. This whole post is Chinese propaganda and they’re astroturfing it.

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

wiki

From the wiki:

Comparisons between the cartoon character and Xi Jinping date back to 2013, when the Chinese leader visited Barack Obama in the United States. An image of the two leaders walking was immediately compared to that of the bear and his friend Tigger.

A meme with Chinese president as Yellow Winnie + American president(of Kenyan/African descent) as Brown Tigger does have racist connotations, right?

Wouldn't ignoring that be similar to those who say that 'The woke left is trying to censor Musk because he raised his hand in joy' and that that it is against freedom of expression and authoritarian?

And arguing?

This whole post is Chinese propaganda and they’re astroturfing it.

And would your comment and similar comments be termed as anti-Chinese propaganda and astroturfing?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you want to enlighten me about what's funny about depicting a Chinese man as a yellow cartoon bear? Why not a panda? Why specifically a yellow bear?

Why do you think it's censored to begin with?

[–] yuri@pawb.social -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

babe all i know is folks in china who protest their own government use whinnie the pooh as a derogatory representation for that man. are THEY being racist? or is it possible that the color of the cartoon plush bear isn’t the point?

maybe it’s more to do with whinnie the pooh being a dopey idiot liable to get his head stuck in a honey jar. i reckon THAT’S the insult. it seems pretty obvious against something so literally stupid as “haha bc he’s yellow”.

i didn’t think people SERIOUSLY still used this garbage as a gotcha. you’ve genuinely impressed me with your willingness to so boldly plow into a bad faith argument. please do something better with your time 💖

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

It started as a picture with Obama as Tigger and Xi as Pooh, together, then Shinzo Abe as Eeyore and Xi as Pooh again. Then, westerners loved the Pooh imagery and used it a ton, still do. It was always based on appearance from the origin, not becayse Pooh is an idiot or anything, that's just not true. Moreover, now you can see non-Chinese people making caricatures of Xi that are without a doubt racist using the Pooh thing as justification.

I don't know why you're getting so mad either.

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's little point in interacting with a tankie, ignore and report, and move on.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You're free to elaborate on the humor of satarizing a Chinese man as a yellow cartoon bear. Calling me a "tankie" for thinking that maybe we shouldn't be using potentially racist caricatures doesn't make much sense to me personally.

[–] yuri@pawb.social -3 points 2 days ago

reply to the person who’s actually arguing with you, coward!

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I do not call you a tankie for that, as I also oppose racist caricatures. Instead, I call you a tankie because you seem to be defending Xi a little too much. Have a good evening.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

You were giving sympathetic advice to someone defending the racist caricature you claim to oppose, so pardon me for interpreting it that way. As for "defending Xi a little too much," what does that constitute? Saying people shouldn't use racist caricatures against him?