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[–] u_die_for_elmer@lemm.ee 0 points 12 hours ago (10 children)

I consider tankies to be on the right end of the socialist spectrum, so when I say it I'm punching right. They're still comrades even if they are miss guided by state-capitalist governments. Cheers

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago

If you're one of those people who just considers "tankie" to be a synonym for "Marxist-leninist" then I suppose I agree, but I think the term is used too nebulously to meaningfully place on the political spectrum.

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 5 hours ago

Call it whatever the fuck you want. It's working 100 million times better than this shit we're doing. It's lead to the most rapid increase of quality of life in human history for it's people. Do you really think they care what you think about their government not being socialist enough?

Poverty is not socialism. To uphold socialism, a socialism that is to be superior to capitalism, it is imperative first and foremost to eliminate poverty.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Do you believe there has ever been a socialist state, even one?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 hours ago

I love it when people call a transitional economy state capitalist because it betrays a lack of understanding of actual capitalism and the role the state plays in it.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmygrad admin here. I normally don't look at reports from other instances but for this I had to make an exception. Probably the dumbest shit I have read so far lmao.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What did the report say? Lmao

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 hours ago

Reason: "state capitalist"

Hence my reply:

Because the Chinese state has fiat monetary sovereignty, it doesn’t function in the capitalist mode. It has no need to make a profit because it has infinite money[1]. It doesn’t need to extract surplus value from workers to satisfy investors, and it doesn’t even need to break even. The logic of capitalism doesn’t apply.

Ultras fear the scroll.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

What defines your position on the spectrum?

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 12 hours ago

V I B E S B A S E D A N A L Y S I S

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 12 hours ago

I think if you're comparing "degrees" of left vs right, at that point you're missing the forest for the trees. Ultimately, Anarchists and Marxists disagree on strategy and end goal, but both oppose Capitalism and Imperialism. At that point, there really isn't a "more" or "less" left, there's just differences in analysis and what must be done to get from A to B, as well as what B itself is.

[–] blame@hexbear.net 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 0 points 12 hours ago

Personally I've found that bashing myself in the head with the book is just as effective as reading it

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