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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is literally the top link

Yes, but here's the problem: I don't know you were referring to the top link, nor would it make sense for me to assume that you were. After all, the top link refers to a phone call Reagan made 1) to a different Israeli president 2) in a different war 3) against an entirely different group 4) in which the lengthy article, from what I can tell, doesn't actually specify that the call had any particular effect. Of course, in reality Israel's attack on Lebanon continued for a month and a half after this article was published. Nowhere does it specify that Reagan took the step of cutting off any weapons whatsoever, as Biden did. So it would actually be the height of irrationality for me to assume this was support for your point, as it doesn't support it at all.

https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/postelection-polling

To reiterate, my point is that Biden had reason to presume that in some alternate universe (that doesn't actually exist and cannot be polled today) if he had cut off aid to Israel it would've alienated Jewish voters and lost the election. The poll you provided not only cannot relate to that point, but it doesn't even include option for insufficient support for Israel. But I do know both from my own discussions with Jewish voters and articles like this one that "weakness against Hamas" drove many pro-Israel jews to support Trump this election. It was a lose-lose situation. Y'all could've helped garner a bit of sympathy by maybe not chanting edgy slogans that are designed to sound scary, and skipping the spraypainting of neighborhoods and late night loud camping events on campuses. Of course Hamas could've also helped by not filming themselves murdering white teenagers just trying to have a party. That's who the blame for the failure to stop Israel really lies with.

LOL. How to say you know nothing about geopolitics without saying you know nothing about geopolitics.

Well then neither does Netanyahu, who had been quite openly friendly with Putin up until the Hamas attacks and China thereafter.

It’s not other peoples responsibility to teach you.

It actually is though. I'm not demanding to be taught, you're the one who volunteered to teach me. You can't then assign me homework. Any business owner will tell you that if you want your bill to be paid, you should make it easy to be paid - provide many forms of payment, send an envelope, etc. Likewise, if you want to be heard, make it easy to listen.