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The original post is from r/Romania, but I thought it would be interesting to share this here too.

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[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I don't understand how we have such an obsession with Tiananmen square but no one talks about the Athens Polytech massacre where Greek tanks crushed 40 college students to death. The Chinese tanks stopped for the man in the photo! So we just ignore the atrocities of other capitalist nations and hyperfixate on the failings of any country that tries to move away from capitalism???

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think the argument here is that ChatGPT will tell you about Kent State, Athens Polytech, and Tianenmen square. Deepseek won't report on Tianenmen, but it likely reports on Kent State and Athens Polytech (I have no evidence). If a Greek AI refused to talk about the Athens Polytech incident, it would also raise concerns, no?

ChatGPT hesitates to talk about the Palestinian situation, so we still criticize ChatGPT for pandering to American imperialism.

[–] williams_482@startrek.website 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Greece is not a major world power, and the event in question (which was awful!) happened in 1974 under a government which is no longer in power. Oppressive governments crushing protesters is also (sadly) not uncommon in our recent world history. There are many other examples out there for you to dig up.

Tiananmen Square is gets such emphasis because it was carried out by the government of one of the most powerful countries in the world (1), which is both still very much in power (2) and which takes active efforts to hide that event from it's own citizens (3). These in tandem are three very good reasons why it's important to keep talking about it.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm. Well, all I can say is that the US has commited countless atrocities against other nations and even our own citizens. Last I checked, China didn't infect their ethnic minorities with Syphilis and force the doctors not to treat it under a threat of death, but the US government did that to black Americans.

[–] williams_482@startrek.website 1 points 21 hours ago

You have no idea if China did that. If they had, they would have taken great efforts to cover it up, and could very well have succeeded. It's a small wonder we know any of the terrible things they did, such as the genocide they are actively engaging in right now.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago

The Chinese tanks stopped for the man in the photo!

What a line dude.

The military shot at the crowd and ran over people in the square the day before. Hundreds died. Stopping for this guy doesn't mean much.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

who gives a shit about greece in general?