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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is like choosing to do nothing in the trolley problem because you disagree with the notion of taking part in something that will kill people. Congratulations on keeping your hands clean while failing to prevent avoidable deaths. I hope your sense of moral vanity is satisfied.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This is like choosing to do nothing in the trolley problem because you disagree with the notion of taking part in something that will kill people.

Nah, it's rejecting the entire scenario as being made up. Why not fucking stop the trolley?!?!? Its our foot on the throttle making it run people over!!

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

That is a great explanation of how I feel too.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You "rejected the scenario" but didn't actually stop the trolley, and now it's crushing people. Brilliant fucking job there with your out of the box thinking!

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

So, why don't you help me stop the trolley from killing anyone, instead of blaming me that you keep mashing down the throttle?

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Wow you really don't understand the trolley problem I guess. Neither of us is in control of the throttle.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Then let's kill the ones with their feet in it, instead of wasting time deciding which lives are more important!!!

Jesus, the trolley only keeps rolling because we agree to let it keep going...

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"We" don't agree to keep it going.

And once again you are demonstrating that you don't understand the difference between a metaphor and a thought experiment. If you don't think the situation is analogous to the trolley problem, just fucking say that. Trying to create options that don't exist in the original setup isn't clever is creative; it's just a childish way of refusing to deal with the concept being discussed, which in this case is an ethical dilemma.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If you keep voting for the people holding the throttle down, you're voting for the trolley to keep killing people.

You just don't like your own "thought expieriment" ran to the logical conclusion.

Our government purports to be for and by the people. So, we voted for the trolley to kill people, rather than NOT let the trolley keep mowing over group A or B.

In the end, this isn't a thought experiment. Our government is killing people, not thought experiements.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Who did you vote for, comrade? Sure seems like you care more about using dead people as a prop than you do about stopping others from suffering the same fate.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I voted what my conscience could bear...

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Me too. That's why I voted to stop the guy talking about invading Greenland.