this post was submitted on 07 Aug 2023
50 points (100.0% liked)
Politics
10176 readers
101 users here now
In-depth political discussion from around the world; if it's a political happening, you can post it here.
Guidelines for submissions:
- Where possible, post the original source of information.
- If there is a paywall, you can use alternative sources or provide an archive.today, 12ft.io, etc. link in the body.
- Do not editorialize titles. Preserve the original title when possible; edits for clarity are fine.
- Do not post ragebait or shock stories. These will be removed.
- Do not post tabloid or blogspam stories. These will be removed.
- Social media should be a source of last resort.
These guidelines will be enforced on a know-it-when-I-see-it basis.
Subcommunities on Beehaw:
This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
It's not even about seeing the good, it's about understanding the real, serious harm the GOP wants to inflict on much of the voting populace. They want to violently beat and disappear people who disagree with them.
And therein lies the problem, because the Democrats are leaning hard on how absolutely vile the GOP is, and continue to act as though they don't have to offer anything because all they have to offer is "we're not literally destroying lives and setting people up to be killed by violence or systemic abuse" (which is also arguable because they are also not doing a lot to stop these things). So they don't see themselves needing to try harder for the American people, because all they have to do is be like "We're not as bad as the other guys!" Because the Democrats are fascism-lite, they don't actually want to solve problems with policing or having a two-tiered justice system or tax the people who fund them.
Leftists are keenly aware of the danger, and they're pretty sick of being expected to vote for people they loathe to "save" the country from itself. Why is it our job instead of Democrats job to fucking do better and fight harder? We'll do it because it's better than straight fascism, but asking us to pat some dim motherfuckers on the back because they couldn't be fucked to fight fascism themselves and wanted us to do it at the ballot box is some straight bullshit.
Republicans at least have a vision they can describe to people. It's a racist, sexist, homophobic vision, but it's at least a vision they can get their base to support.
Democrats don't seem to have any plans beyond keeping the status quo. However, since most people don't like the status quo it's really hard to get them excited to vote for Democrats. So they have to resort to fearing the Republicans.
The fear is real.
Democrats do use the government to help people.
Not only do that, but they actively BOOST fascism. They keep using the pied piper strategy over and over again. If they're that bad (and I'm not denying that they are), why in the world do they keep signal boosting those fucks?
Cause it makes for an easy election win cause they don't have to promise anything, just point to the contrast. I.E. they keep risking the fate of the entire world to win elections in a way that doesn't affect their corporate donors.
Just insane.
They need to get with the goddamn program and start actually making solid moves with clear results. Michigan and Minnesota have been successful in this recently, at least. The vast majority of establishment Dems haven't fought for anything but the status quo for decades. That's a fair percentage of the reason we are in this mess in the first place, because in their eyes even if Trump isn't doing the right thing, he's at least doing something different. It's shitty logic, but it is hard to argue with when the alternative keeps being old white guys that don't want to offend corporations.