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[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Yep, for sure. More western countries should adopt the Chinese approach of "cultural assimilation" by locking up all our Muslim immigrants in "re-education" camps to unlearn Islam. They wouldn't get any criticism for that right?

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Wahabism isn't native. It's literally being imported by Saudi Arabia, and is actively trying to destroy Uighur culture.

'Muslim' is not a monoculture and it is ironic that someone worried about cultural genocide believes it is.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago

Don't straw man me. I was simply pointing out how insane this would be if any Western country employed the same 'assimilation' methods that China is doing. I mean, arguably the US is doing something similar with the way they exploit their prison populations (minus the re-education part). But that's also shameful. Just because the US does shameful things too doesn't mean that China's shameful things don't matter or shouldn't be talked about. These types of reprehensible State actions should all be scrutinized and opposed.

Are they being forced to convert?

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Dude, it’s gonna blow your mind when you hear about Guantanamo Bay.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with you, all authoritarian States suck ass, including the US. I post more critical stuff about the US than about any other country. Still that doesn't give China a free pass. You can shove your "critical support" where the sun don't shine if you are just simping for a different authoritarian State.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No free pass for China. But I’m not gonna tricked into another war. I want to see actual evidence. Not just western intelligence claims from the least trustworthy people on the planet.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago

Well that's fair enough. If anyone believes the US has ever gone to war because of human rights violations then they are pure fantasists. Is the US using these claims as a pretext for drumming up anti-China sentiment? Sure, I think that's likely.

The US doesn't give two shits about human rights abuses when they or their allies are involved. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the claims are false. It's just that the Americans have selective blindness when it comes to recognizing genocide.

But I don't think the US really wants a war with China. They just want to keep them at bay for another 10 years until the Chinese economy implodes. The Chinese are facing a demographic cliff due to the long term effect of the one child policy, and even after the policy was lifted the birth rate was/is still very low. But I'd be happy to be proved wrong if China can figure out how deal with a shrinking economy and population decline without deteriorating living conditions for their people. We're all going to have to face up to shrinking economies and shrinking populations eventually.