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[–] timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What I heard her say at the DNC was; "We need Israel, we're in a huge bind with that, but we're absolutely not ok with what is happening in Palestine and we're working to stop it".

A claim was made. I asked for evidence supporting that claim. I don't see how the question is in bad faith.

None of that is evidence of her supporting genocide. "You're wrong and everyone thinks so" is kindergarten level "evidence".

People need to recognize that this "war" (aka genocide of unarmed civilians) is happening between two different countries. As much as the US gov likes to think so, it is not the world's daddy. It doesn't have the power to come into any situation across the globe and immediately put a stop to it. Does the US hold a massive amount of political influence? Yes. But they still have to USE that influence to get things done, and weigh the impact using that influence could have on their military readiness for the region (which is important to maintain, now that it's there, unfortunately). They could absolutely stop funding Israel's military stock. Do you think that would immediately stop the genocide? I think it could cost the US an ally, which would remove ANY influence they have over them. This is a snippet of geo-politics that should highlight the necessity to handle complex problems with thoughtful, measured diplomacy. Personally, I don't want a world in which the US can "lay down the law" wherever, however, and whenever they want. Even when it's for the right reasons. Imperialism got the US into this mess. I'm not convinced more imperialism will solve it.

If geo-politics weren't what they currently are, I would love for the US to end it's relationship with Israel and immediately deploy troops to stop them. If domestic politics weren't what they currently are, I would love to not vote for people I don't agree with, on most issues, because I don't get candidates that are progressive enough for me (or the many problems in the US ). But, as a gay man, I have to recognize the reality of my situation, and the domestic threats to my family, that are on the horizon, because people like you threw us (and all minorities/ immigrants) under the bus to make some point about your idealogies. Petulant children, the lot of you.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

I guess you’re going to pretend like Biden didn’t directly fund the Israeli genocide against Palestinians.

🤷‍♂️

And as for you having the sads about who I voted for? I don’t give a fuck who you think I should or shouldn’t vote for. That’s the whole point of voting. I make my own choices. And my state electoral college votes all went to Harris. You’re talking out of your ass and blaming voters when the person who deserves 100% of the blame is Harris and the DNC…

[–] timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This person didn't like the points I raised in my reply to this comment, so they reported my comment to the auto-mod. Apparently the conversation has not been civil enough for them, despite their repeated use of profanity and insults.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago

I didn’t report anything not sure what you mean