this post was submitted on 17 Jan 2025
367 points (96.2% liked)

World News

39605 readers
1569 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy warned Europe that it cannot withstand Russia without Ukraine’s military, calling Ukraine’s victory vital to stopping Kremlin expansion.

Speaking to Polish media, Zelenskyy stressed that Russia’s larger, more brutal army would target other European nations if Ukraine falls.

He criticized Western allies for underestimating Russian President Vladimir Putin’s ambitions, urging them to strengthen Ukraine’s defenses.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (32 children)

I think we should help Ukraine, but Russia would get their clock cleaned by European NATO (even without US).

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

and Europe would take catastrophic casualties in doing so.
America is an ocean away, and doesn't have to worry about war on their soil.

Europe on the other hand, can you honestly say that society is ready for events like Bucha on their soil? a Russian brigade breaks through the line, gets bogged down,isnt able to advance any further, so decides to loot , rape and mass murder the population before retreating?

Bucha and Mariupol is why the entire NATO strategy changed. it used to be that the baltics would effectively be surrendered temporarily while the European backbone mobilized, France Germany Poland etc. But thats no longer an option because intelligence knows that the Russian Soldiery, for lack of a better term, act like savage ghouls. and will put innocent men women and children to the sword for no reason other than spite.

and failing that, they will bomb a city to dust like they did to Mariupol, Bakhmut, and so many others

One thing Russia has infintely more experience than Europe, its people are used to the realities of war, Martial law, no rights, Resource scarcity, No protesting. they just behave like lemmings now. Its sad, but its an advantage.

European populations would be calling for an armistice and selling out countries on the periphery as soon as it started because they dont want to go to war.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Lmao you really fell for the Russian propaganda.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

quite the opposite.

but I've been watching their actions for the last 10 years. And it's clear to me that most of Europe has not even been remotely taking this seriously. Militarily Russia will obviously lose, but an unthinkable amount of people will still die.

World War III is already in it's pre-game show phase. and Quisling governments are already trying to take hold of European countries before the drop of the ball/puck/etc

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Lolololol. Russia couldn't invade the one of the poorest countries in Europe. They couldn't do shit against any real power. And now they've wasted all their equipment and men. Ok I'm out you've fallen hard for bs.

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 1 points 1 hour ago

Ok I'm out

Good riddance.

load more comments (30 replies)