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Literally the headline. Not illegal at all is best of course.

I'd like to have a sort of reverse Warrant Canary of sorts, that will pop if security is breached

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[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

"I encourage violence "

Not illegal to say that at all.

If you specify a person it'll get flagged faster. If you mention certain people you might get a visit for the secret service. Still not illegal to say but it's often treated like it is.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I'm in a medieval reenactment society, and about a year ago some people were getting temp bans on Facebook for announcing fencing practice by saying "come stab your friends!"

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

instigation laws are typically super vague for a reason so it can absolutely be illegal

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I disagree. I understand they are vague, I understand that is purposeful so they can prosecute how they chose.

I still argue it's freedom of speech and never illegal.

Again let's use the example of a hypothetical famous or political person. If they were to haphazardly suggest people should invade a federal building. I would say that was irresponsible, foolish, and it's fine to judge someone for doing such a thing. I wouldn't call it illegal to mention you like violence to happen.

However if they were to add things to the statement like "on this day" or "you have to because the sky is green" I'd say there are legal implications for coordination or manipulation with false facts... Saying you want something to happen shouldn't be illegal on its own.

Jokes aside I do understand there is a line between freedom of speech and causing a crime.

"Someone should hurt bob boberson" I feel is okay

"On Tuesday we are going hurt bob boberson because if we don't hell hurt you" thats not as okay. That's a plan, that's spreading lies