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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here πŸ”πŸ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

PrivacyTools has the better more updated content, are you against PT making money ? It's way better than PG stealing funds from PT

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's way better than PG stealing funds from PT

they didn't.

are you against PT making money

absolutely yes, the owner is an asshole and the website is shit

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not a good reason, techlore fanboy The website is pretty decent & clean & they have a better licencing

You drank the TechLore kool-aid Mistef

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The website is pretty decent & clean

what the fuck? Google has a clean website, doesn't mean I should be using it. The usefulness of the information is what matters, and privacytools ranking ads as "best picks" sure as hell isn't informative

better licencing

same as above. Doesn't matter if they have a better license when everything else is a scam

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What ads & what scam ? Disroot ? Picocrypt ?

PG's Jonah Aragon steal PT's creator's funds & his subreddit & censors anyone who mentions it They shill for apple & attack other more reputable privacy youtubers But I guess PT is bad, because you said soπŸ˜‚

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

What ads & what scam ? Disroot ? Picocrypt ?

From https://www.privacytools.io/donate

The only sponsorship of PrivacyTools.io so far is the service "Redact.dev" click here to view the example. To avoid confusion, these entries will be clearly marked as a sponsored entry.

I will make this very clear: No tool or service will be added here just because an affiliate program is offered.

Clearly false when the VPN page lists NordVPN as the best pick, followed by Surfshark and an and for Incogni at the bottom of the page.

PG's Jonah Aragon steal PT's creator's funds & his subreddit & censors anyone who mentions it

🌟lies🌟

can you stop linking that one video which uses "trust me bro" and the privacytools website itself as sources and link some actual verifiable stuff?

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vs PG being actual thieves & liars ? Ok

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vs PG being actual thieves & liars ?

what did they steal?

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Money & subreddit & along with the staff & content (it's literally copy paste)

(it's literally copy paste)

That's called forking an open source project, not to even mention that everyone who wrote the stuff is now on PG

staff

the staff unanimously decided to move

Money & subreddit

Lies and lies from burung