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[–] Vitaly@feddit.uk 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's a great idea that simply doesn't work in practice

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you mean by that? I think it's pretty evident by analyzing AES states that shifting the economy into a more collectivized and planned direction comes with numerous benefits. What do you mean when you say it "doesn't work in practice?"

[–] Vitaly@feddit.uk 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean that every post communist country is very poor now, like Ukraine or Cuba

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

The Cuban people are doing better now under Socialism than they were under the fascist slaver Batista. Their life expectancies grew dramatically, literacy rates among the best in the world from widespread illiteracy, and they have one of the world's most progressive family codes despite massive embargo.

Ukraine is Capitalist, the fall of the Soviet Union resulted in 7 million excess deaths over the entire former USSR and obliterated what was once a stable economy. There were issues with the later Soviet Economy due to poor economic reforms, but other Socialist countries have learned from this, and these problems were correctable without nuking the economy.

[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 0 points 1 month ago

It doesn't work in practice when capitalist countries routinely snuff it out. You're correct, but not for a good reason.

[–] _lunar@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

cool platitude bro

you've never actually thought about this at all have you?

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This isn't your sleeping place! It belongs to the community. And share your food. Why do you think it's just yours?

Real talk, the difference is property. This doesn't exist in pure communism. Can you live without property?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

More like a historical joke. Never heard of the background from communism or where the wording came from? Commune, common?

[–] funnyguy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

don't quit your day job

[–] _lunar@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

i was just kidding guys!!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Personal property is fine in Communism, the entire reason Communists want to collectivize industry and production is so that it can be done along a common plan to satisfy use, not for profit and hoarding wealth. Communists don't want to take your toothbrush.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ever hear of the prisoner's dilemma?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Name dropping a game theory hypothetical is not an argument.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're right, it's not an argument. But it's a perfectly sufficient reply to a one-word question that doesn't properly provide an argument of its own.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your original comment only garnered a one word question because you were too vague.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The original comment that garnered a one word response wasn't mine. Thanks though.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

There was a vague "argument," followed by a request for elaboration, followed by another somehow more vague "argument" from yourself.