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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] arsCynic@beehaw.org 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know Nostr and creepto incentivizes greed. A pitchfork is all you need.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll be honest, I read the link fully expecting to completely disagree with it, and actually I don't. There's actually a decent amount of it I do agree with. Bitcoin has evolved and not in a good way from what it was meant to be which was peer-to-peer digital cash that anybody could use to send money around the world in an instant with no government oversight. That's actually the big reason that I'm interested in Monero, because it still fulfills that vision while providing user privacy and low fees. It does use proof of work mining, so uses electricity for that, but it is much better than Bitcoin simply because it uses your general CPU that you find in your phone, your desktop, your laptop, etc. and does not require specialized hardware that costs a ton of money and burns a crap ton of power to only mine.

You may or may not find my arguments above compelling, but I appreciate the link. Because, as I said, I expected to fully disagree with it and found more agreement than I expected to.

[–] arsCynic@beehaw.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for taking the time.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Nostr is full of fascists and others with bigotted, regressive views last I heard, so no thank you.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

'The internet is full of fascists, so I'm never going to use it"

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That isn't what I said. Why take my words out of context? I have no desire to use a specific thing that has become a hub for fascists, not the whole internet. This is very disingenuous.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"Lots of fascists live in houses, so I'm not going to live in houses"

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't disagree with your point, but how do Nostr or Monero play into the article? They aren't mentioned at all.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can't be kicked off of Nostr and PayPal and other services can't freeze Monero.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I see, I thought the finger was aimed at Nostr and cryptocurrencies. As you describe them they sound like the last hiding places for the worst assholes of the internet, and I feel confirmed in staying far away from everything web3/blockchain.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In case you didn't know cryptocurrency's/web3's failures are all being recorded here: https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com/

You're right about Nostr, as anything that advertises itself as "censorship proof" usually just ends up with those that want to say and do the vilest shit without consequences: fascists, bigots and the like.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, I know "Web3 is going just great" already. It is the true ledger of the blockchain hype, and it's all in the red. Hopefully your link brings it to somebody for the first time.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago

Ah okay. Glad you were aware of it and thank you 🙂. I hope so too.