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Veilid (en.m.wikipedia.org)
submitted 1 week ago by TheMachineStops@discuss.tchncs.de to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Veilid is a peer-to-peer network and application framework released by the Cult of the Dead Cow on August 11, 2023, at DEF CON 31. Seems more promising than I2P.

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't understand why they would rebuild TOR and IPFS. Why not build this into I2P or something?

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[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Relevant XKCD https://xkcd.com/927/

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 5 points 6 days ago

Yep, that's exactly what's happening here. And it just keeps happening. What's weird is they explicitly mention TOR and IPFS, then go on to just re-implement it. There's no mention of why.

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 6 points 6 days ago

@veilidnetwork@hackers.town I just watched the presentation on veilid and my question still stands: why rebuild TOR and IPFS?

Also, as someone pointed out in the comments on the video as well as here, you say

Stop being dependent on corporate systems

yet you're on discord and twitter. Why aren't you eschewing those services? Discord can be replaced by matrix, signal (which also has groups), zulip, maybe even rocket chat! Gitlab is fine, but you could also be using radicle (granted, 2 years ago they weren't anywhere close to their current functionality).

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[–] TheMachineStops@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, they can build on top of I2P. There's no need to rewrite all that stuff. They could've written something that glues everything together and reuse the existing nodes instead of creating yet another network.

Also, I2P has implementations in Java (main implementation) and C++ (i2pd). A rust implementation would be great news.

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[–] alsalahad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

I really hope.. in the future, all people in dbzer0 used i2p as their secondary-main network. newbie this year.. and I already amaze with how easy, simple, versatile, and its usefulness in everything.. just mind blowin thing I ever found on the internet, personally..

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 1 week ago

discord and google docs. say no more