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‘It’s destroyed me completely’: Kenyan moderators decry toll of training of AI models
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2023
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Yeah that's a bullshit take on AI
But that's exactly what's happening. Bloodsucking capitalists have decided that AI is a cheaper option than paying people a living wage, so creatives are losing their jobs.
Instead of actually learning how to create art, shitbag grifters claim theyre "taking the power back from creatives" and doing nothing but stealing from actual creatives to make some sort of soulless synthesis, leaving actual creatives high and dry. For just one example, look at how many publishing outlets have stopped taking submissions because of the overwhelming flood of AI spam.
All the while people are out here trying to make ends meet and are being forced into shitty, low paid jobs or gig work
I think he/she was referring to the sole purpose of AI being developed is to create an additional subscription model that serves both ads and bullshit, locked to infrastructure of google or metas choice.
Your complaint here is entirely with capitalism and has nothing to do with AI. It's a legitimate concern, but it;s fart larger problem than new ways of making pictures. Aim your opprobrium at the correct targets
I was hoping to get away from these kinds of comments when I left reddit. It would be nice for you to elaborate a bit on why you think this is a bullshit take.
There's nothing to elaborate on. It's a stupid position put about by luddites and perpetuated by people with no understanding of the subject. It's so not on target it's not even wrong!
The way AI advertisers constantly call others not on board Luddites reminds me of what somebody said on badly written magic systems in fiction. It was something like they focus more on making the most complex system rather than actually asking if it will add to the story. Then when the story fails to reach an audience these authors confuse the apathy with real life anti-intellectualism.
That's a... Random comparison
My entire point is that people are blaming AI when the problem is... not AI!
I'm a DevOps engineer. I work with big technology every day. I am very definitively not a Luddite. But the way the capitalists controlling our economy view and want to use AI is harmful to us, the lower and middle classes. I'm not sure which part of my view is so stupid that it enters into psuedoscience, leading me to not even being wrong
You're so close. Keep going. Where's the root cause of the problem?
I could not make it any clearer I think the root cause is capitalism. That you're putting the focus elsewhere is exhausting
No I agree. Keep going... Why are you therefore daemonising AI rather than focusing your ire where it belongs?
I'm not demonizing AI. I'm demonizing OpenAI, the shitty company. I'm demonizing CEOs and publishing executives who think they can pass off an inferior product vomited out by a robot record scratching the entire history of human creativity while we get stuck doing bullshit jobs for Uber, DoorDash, Fiverr, and the rest.
You think I have a position on AI that I don't and it's exhausting repetitively explaining to you that I don't think AI is the problem, I think capitalism is. What part of what I am saying is not clear? Why do you want to treat me like a moron luddite for something I don't believe and didn't say? I'm more and more getting the impression that you and I are on the same page about this but you're inserting a position onto me I do not hold.
That's why I said this is exhausting. In fact you're exhausting. In fact, I feel like I'm being a jerk and I'm starting to think you're a jerk
Dude come on don’t do that crap.
Why not?
@ReCursing, @Cube6392, @acastcandream - I think there is discussion to be had here, but it's clear to me that folks are getting a bit too heated to be kind to one another. I completely understand, this is a topic that is complicated and that lots of folks are passionate about. I think it is probably time for everyone involved to disengage from the discussion and cool off. If you have questions or concerns, please direct them to me via DM.
Thanks. Sorry. I needed that