I have seen many comments saying that lemmy.world sucks, and sh.itjust.works is good. I have seen that lemmy.world apparently has a very poor reputation among other instances. Why? After a quick look, sh.itjust.works doesn't look much different to me. Can anyone explain?

Edit: many good replies. the conclusion I'm drawing is that for my purposes it doesn't really matter. I appreciate everyone who responded

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[–] Addition@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have accounts on both. Sh.itjust.works has a piracy community that .world blocks and is still federated with Hexbear for some reason. .world has old.lemmy.world if you liked the old reddit UI.

Otherwise, not that different.

[–] Grey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

Lemmy.dbzer0.com has the best piracy community :D

[–] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Damn. I was considering making a sjw account to see if the better performance claims are true but hexbear is a dealbreaker. Never going back to that crazy cult site. I know I could block it but they'd still see my posts and comments.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

For the record, I just added hexbear to the sjw blocklist.

They use an allowlist and they previously removed us from it, so we were effectively defederated already for most of the past year. But it seems that they may have refederated with us silently within the past couple weeks. I'm not exactly sure.

Anyway, I've heard this rumor about us still being federated with hexbear a few times, so I decided to clarify the situation.

@Addition@sh.itjust.works

[–] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

great! and thanks for telling me

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

For the record, I just added hexbear to the sjw blocklist.

Good to know, that whole thing was always a bit confusing

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

Basically we were in the process of having a discussion about defederating them, and then they blocked us before we could have a vote in c/Agora.

So it seemed like the problem was solved. But the fact that they don't appear on our blocklist has been misleading to others, so I think it's better to make it official.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 7 points 2 days ago

Also note that "blocking" it doesn't actually "block" much of anything at all - it stops you from seeing the communities located on that instance, but the users will still appear in posts all across the Fediverse, sending their harassing messages to you, pinging your Notifications every time they reply to you, downvoting your own comments, etc. The instance block function is horribly misnamed.

If you want to avoid this kind of thing, I second that recommendation to try Lemmy.cafe - it is the only Lemmy instance that defederates from the Big 3: hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml, and Lemmy.ml. The latter one is like 1000x easier to deal with than hexbear, yet still nearly all of the most batshit insane comments I've received on Lemmy after defederating from the other two have come from it - and for similar reasons that they get used to how things work inside their echo chamber, and then behave the same way when they venture outside of it - so I consider having defederated from it too worthwhile overall. Although you will miss out on some content such as !Firefox@lemmy.ml that way.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

You just wanted a pepsi! And they wouldn't give it to you!