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[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This is not just unreasonable, it's delusional

“unreasonable” is a choice of words… russia invaded a sovereign state; that was their choice… i’d say it’s very reasonable for russia to fuck right off and fix the damages, which is to say nothing of the lives ukraine lost because of that choice - anything less is unreasonable

whether that’s realistic or not is another question, but fair and reasonable are not realistic because the world is not fair, especially when it comes to the bullshit bullying that happens with all major military powers

[–] Korkki@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

i’d say it’s very reasonable for russia to fuck right off and fix the damages, which is to say nothing of the lives ukraine lost because of that choice - anything less is unreasonable

Yes, This is what you want! It's a wish not bound in any sound perception of reality on the groundt.

people shouldn't have to keep dying for a lost cause and I will not apologize for that. Ukraine still has a change for a future, but it won't if it fights this war to "the last Ukrainian" as zelensky and many "pro-Ukraine" trolls seem to want.

bullshit bullying that happens with all major military powers

International politics have always been law of the jungle and ability to do violence of political, economical and military kind to other countries has always been the measuring stick of international power and ability to guard national interests. Why anybody got to believe otherwise was because for a short time in the 90s and early 2000s US was the unquestioned global hegemon and could by itself set a global rules, enforce them and crush dissent. That gave the illusion (in the west mainly) that there were no longer small and big countries in competition in the world. With US as the policeman there got to be some semblance of law between countries like there was law within these countries among individuals. Now Russia is portrayed as a law breaker when it's using it's "military veto" in Ukraine and pushing against the post-cold war status quo and "restoring normalcy" in international affairs.

I don't think this is necessarily good, but I do think it is very much happening and it was bound to do so.