I plan on actively posting to counter the constant barrage of tankie propaganda that is very clearly an issue here. Misinformation is a very real issue that we face in our society and unless we actually do something about it, it will only continue to get worse.

[–] sovietsnake@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is a very real issue so it'd be nice if you'd stopped doing it yourself. Also this is not world news, this is a China news, world news is not whatever the US and its European eunuchs oppose to.

[–] xTechDeath@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also this is not world news, this is a China news,

Is china not part of the world? lmao

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not saying there can’t be news about China, what I’m saying, and I’ve seen this a multitude of times, is that there is something that Usonians and Europeans do a lot, is that they post news about their countries as if they would be the world. In my book “World News” means something the entire world should care about, not just the Anglosphere and Europe, the description seems just a silly thing to put as a placeholder, at least that’s how it has always worked in this community, news that the entire world cares about. It is a good rule that something global would involve at least 2 countries, or some event that it is really worth mentioning, like a natural disaster in some country, etc.

[–] xTechDeath@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

times, is that there is something that Usonians and Europeans do a lot, is that they post news about their countries as if they would be the world. In my book “World News” means something the entire world should care about, not just the Anglosphere and Europe, the description seems just a silly thing to put as a placeholder, at least that’s how it has always worked in this community, news that the entire world cares about. It is a good rule that something global would involve at least 2 countries, or some event that it is really worth mentioning, like a natural disaster in some country, etc.

A simple glance at the news articles being posted here is a direct contradiction to all of this, where are you in those those threads?

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why not post about the atrocities committed by the USA and their allies on their anniversaries then?

Might get exhausting posting every day.

[–] gzrrt@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure I've seen many reports of the USA jailing or disappearing its own citizens when they dare speak up about said atrocities.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, like Julian Assange? Who's that guy? No idea. Oh, maybe you meant Chelsea Manning, ah, no, also don't know who's that one.

[–] jeena@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, Julian is not USA's "own citizen".

[–] soulless@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having been a life long socialist myself, it's a bit mystifying to me how anyone can believe that the atrocities commited by the US somehow makes the PRC or Russia in any way deserving of praise.

For sure I'd like more people to call out the American genocide of its natives, or honor the heroes that fought for their emancipation during the time of chattel slavery.

But I'll be damned if any of those atrocities will make me defend the human suffering caused by the Chinese or Russian regimes. To me, being a socialist means standing up for the little guy, judging a society by how we care for those who have the least. The only us vs them struggle there is, is the one between the working and the ruling class - not the one between east and west. Idolising Zedong only puts another Emperor on a pedestal. I say fuck them all, western or eastern rulers and billionaires, they're the real enemies of a social and equal world.

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a propaganda push in the west to demonize China, with the obvious goal of creating consent for a potential war. Even the Trotskyists of wsws.org (which have no favorable view of China) usually defend China from fake or misleading shit. Repeating US propaganda uncritically, or even criticizing China for good reason without proper context, is helping the US propaganda machine bring us to the brink of annihilation.

It's important to be truthful and fair, and not encourage sinophobia and war propaganda, so be careful when criticizing China.

[–] soulless@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whether it's China or really anything, I'd agree to being critical of any claims made without proper context, yet the context here is the massacre and subsequent cover-up perpetrated by the Chinese government following peaceful protests on the Tiananmen square.

Meeting that with whataboutisms and vague excuses is disrespectful towards the victims full stop.

Being a socialist should be easy, because truth is on our side. It should be easy to point to Tiananmen square and say "this is what happens when the ruling class feels threatened", just like you can say the same thing when the US government busts their unions or murders their black citizens. Being an unquestioning supporter of either of these regimes is not what socialism is to me, and it never was. I just don't understand how anyone can reconcile these opposing views in their heads.