this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2024
360 points (98.1% liked)

World News

39102 readers
2256 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

"Israel’s far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich has ordered preparations for the annexation of the occupied West Bank ahead of US President-elect Donald Trump taking office in January 2025."

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mean, aren't they? The only real difference I can see between Kamala and Trump on Palestine is that Kamala prefers a more respectable version of genocide. She supports genocide, but she just wants it to be done slowly and quietly. Trump is on board with a fast and overt genocide. Their policies lead to the same outcome; Trump is just a lot more honest about it.

Harris promised to do everything in her power to end the war in Gaza.

“This year has been difficult, given the scale of death and destruction in Gaza and given the civilian casualties and displacement in Lebanon, it is devastating. And as president, I will do everything in my power to end the war in Gaza, to bring home the hostages, end the suffering in Gaza, ensure Israel is secure, and ensure the Palestinian people can realise their right to dignity, freedom, security and self-determination,” Harris said to applause during a rally in East Lansing city of Michigan, home to 200,000 Arab Americans.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/4/harris-says-will-end-gaza-war-in-final-election-appeal-to-arab-americans

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I can't even begin to fathom the brain rot required to believe this... I can't tell if it's unfettered ignorance, or just propaganda.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Jesus h. Chist, you ARE the problem in the room. You and people like you.

Had kamela won she could have doubled down in Israel. If not, mass protests could have pushed her. Something, anything could have been done. Hell, even if nothing was done, at least the worst impulses would have been constrained. Now, because of smug assholes like you, the US will likely become a dictatorship, the US likely will pull out of NATO and the entire fucking world will become a much, much dangerous place to live in. Forget about internal policies that will make racism and discrimination against anyone slightly different okay again, this shit affects the whole goddamn world. People like you ate the reason why a Jesus-will-come-back-if-we-end-the-world cult is now in possession of nukes.

Oh, and Palestine is absolutely fucked now.expect it to simply and completely disappear, you are the reason why so many men, women and children will be slaughtered

Thank you!

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Had kamela won she could have doubled down in Israel.

This is ridiculous nonsense. Why would she. The Harris campaign ran on the strategy that she could ignore the voices of Palestinians and their allies during the most vulnerable time for her. Why would she do anything if she was delivered into power. The whole point of her doing that was to prove that she didn’t need support from the antigenocide crowd. Why do you believe she would do anything if we gave her power. All the leverage is gone at that point. You are being delusional.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I voted for Kamala, ya dingus. I just have enough self-reflection to note that her messaging was shit and that there was little difference between the two of them when it came to Palestine. I voted for her because of domestic policy, not foreign policy.

There are lessons to be learned here. And sticking our heads in the sand will not help us learn those lessons. And one of those lessons should absolutely be that, "vote for me. I support genocide, but my opponent supports it EVEN MORE!" is a shit campaign message. Whoever thought of that strategy should be shot.

[–] FinnFooted@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Her message was shit. I still don't think that Israel would feel comfortable annexing the west bank like this under her presidency. The dems are cooling on Israel, especially since it was slowly leading them into a war with Iran and tensions with Saudi Arabia. So I'm not saying the dems are better on this issue for altruism. No. I think Gaza was fucked either way and the dems are complicit in genocide there. But I do think Trump will directly result in expansion and full out war into the west bank and then the whole region in a way Harris wouldn't have and they are very different in that way.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

No you are the problem. Democrats and Republicans are becoming cult, you can't assume your responsibilities and blame each other. Both parties are complicit to the genocide and military support data shows that there support for Israel is almost equal. The fact that you defend the imperialist power called NATO who destroyed Afghanistan is crazy and shows that you can't give a damn about justice