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[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The good old GNU/Linux quote.

I like Stallman's ideas on free software but this whole GNU/Linux thing is an absolute waste of time and I hate how it still gets brought up.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let me interject for a moment!

What you guys are referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux. Thank you for taking your time to cooperate with with me, your friendly GNU+Linux neighbor, Richard Stallman.

[–] moobythegoldensock@geddit.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The quote attributed to Stallman is made up and is a distortion of his actual views.

He created GNU as an operating system. His position is that when talking about the GNU OS, it is appropriate to call it GNU/linux if it’s running the linux kernel, though he is also fine with calling it GNU.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

The italicized parts are made up, the rest is true. He says so much in the article you linked.

In any case, we're repeating the same old discussion I'm tired of. Should've seen it coming.